question on tone of V-type bodies

[withmyshadow]

this's prob. been discussed before but the search engine doesn't let me try different keywords one by one so I am asking again:
can you tell the sound of a RR1 from, say, sl2h because the shape of the body? from what I learnt in college, the center-of-mass of the RR is located furthur away from the neck just by looking at it so it should resonant differently. but can you tell?

[quakana]

Re: question on tone of V-type bodies

You learnt in college? I have never heard that. I have a king v and a soloist but they have different pups so they sound different anyway

[withmyshadow]

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You learnt in college? I have never heard that. I have a king v and a soloist but they have different pups so they sound different anyway

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LOL,
I learnt the location of the center-of-mass changes the properties of the vibration.
how much lighter is the kingV than soloist? can you tell the diff of them played unplugged?

[quakana]

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The soloist feels lighter by far. I will get it out tomorrow and let you know the difference with them both unplugged

[Chrisb]

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I dunno about the center of the mass but the actual mass itself greatly affects the tone. The heavier and larger the body the fuller the tone, IMO thats why Les Pauls have such great tone because the bitches are fucking heavy! But many have said that if you compare say the similar 750xl to the SAP you will notice that the thicker body of the 750 and the incidental weight increase result in a thicker and fuller tone that is somewhat more resonant.

[YetAnotherOne]

Re: question on tone of V-type bodies

There was a discussion about this recently on The Gear Page and IIRC the consensus was the V-shaped bodies do indeed produce unique tones due to the shape / distribution of mass. Based on personal experience with a bunch of very very similar guitars from the same builder I'd say that's very probably true but pickups & bridge type are far more determinative and body wood / construction are at least equally important.

Unless of course you have EMGs in there at which point the guitar could be made from anything ranging from a toilet seat to the finest hardwoods and you'd not notice any significant difference. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[PallarAndersVisa]

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too bad your professors didnt teach you that "learnt" wasn't a word

[mm2002]

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too bad your professors didnt teach you that "learnt" wasn't a word

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And, too bad YOUR professors didn't teach you to always capitalize the first word in a sentence, and put a PERIOD at the end. [img]/images/graemlins/poke.gif[/img]

[JimmyApollo]

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too bad your professors didnt teach you that "learnt" wasn't a word

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Ah, but it is:

From the Oxford English Dictionary: learn, v.; Pa. tense and pple. [participle] learned, learnt

[PallarAndersVisa]

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never seen learnt in my life!

[YetAnotherOne]

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Read all about it right here. You may also want to reference these capitalization and punctuation guides. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

[PallarAndersVisa]

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L.O.L.

[YetAnotherOne]

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[img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[Sunbane]

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Unless of course you have EMGs in there at which point the guitar could be made from anything ranging from a toilet seat to the finest hardwoods and you'd not notice any significant difference. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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This crap again? I thought we stomped this shit out. [img]/images/graemlins/bs.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/bs.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/bs.gif[/img]

[Carbophos]

Re: question on tone of V-type bodies

Bridge affects attack and sustain qualities, but doesn't has much impact on a tone itself. RR1 and RR1T sound very similar tone-wise, when you listen to someone else playing them. But they feel pretty different, when you play.


As for comparing RR1 to SL2H, RR1 in general has more focused upper-mids, SL2H has overall "bigger" tone and better cleans (even if neck PU is replaced with SH-2), but has a bit muddier lows. For me their tones relate to each other as SG and LesPaul respectively.

Kelly is a different beast on its own.