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    I'm proposing Community Involvement to build it from the ground up. So, in the meantime, I'd like for the JCF community to fill this thread with any factual info (links to catalog scans from 1970s-present, specs for whatever models, etc).

    I should state I'm not claiming to be the curator or the team leader on this. It's not my idea, it's not my project, but I strongly suggest that the information gathering be done by as many people as possible, then a smaller group take on the task of sorting the info, etc etc etc.

    I'd also like to strongly suggest that no replies other than those containing pertinent factual info appear here. If you think the thread is good, bad, or whatever, please do not clutter up this thread with general discussion.

    Lastly, I'd say we define "Import" as those models made outside the USA for sale within the North American and European markets. GroverJackson and JacksonStars model info would be nice, and should be included, but IMO those should be in their own section, with the main section, again, focusing on the larger pile - the Charvel Model models and Jackson Japanese/Indian/etc-made models that were marketed/sold in North America/Europe.

    First we'll need to find a list of all models ever made for any length of time - whether it was a 10 piece Dealer Special or the Guitar Center runs or the various experiments from the AMIC years, both Jackson and Charvel. If it was given a model name/number by J/C and/or AMIC or JCMI, it's relevant.

    I'd say to avoid "common" Custom Shop models (like the 80-89 models that basically became the USA production models in 1990), or reserve them for their own special section. Those were so individual that it would be impossible to document them all and will delay getting the other info together.

    If it's Custom Shop one-offs like the Jizzmaster or Brooks' one-off PCs, I'd say include them if Brooks is willing to share pics and specs. We don't need the details of how who got what, just the build specs. Serials are entirely optional for anything.

    The original intent of the MOAIP, if I recall correctly, was to document the various Charvel Model models as well as the even more varied Jackson import models. This included all specs from the catalogs/flyers.

    I suggest we start there, since it's the largest pile to sort through, and the hardest one.

    So, let's begin:

    I know Charvel had the following models, but not all the specifics nor all the variations of each model:
    Imports
    Model Series
    Model 1
    Variations
    Model 2
    Variations
    Model 3
    Variations
    Model 4
    Variations
    Model 5
    Variations
    Model 6
    Variations
    Model 7
    Variations
    Model 8
    Variations
    Variations examples are Model 5A, 4M, etc etc. I'd suggest noting when the Model 6 became the 650XL, and the technical differences (i.e. logo shape, etc).

    I know Jackson has made these models:
    Soloist USA
    Rhoads USA
    Fusion USA
    Dinky USA
    KV-1
    KV-2
    KV-3
    KV-4
    RR-1
    Variations
    KE-1
    Variations
    SL-1
    Variations
    SL-2H
    Variations
    WR-1
    KE-3
    WRXT
    WRMG
    JS30WR
    JS30RR
    JS30KE
    JS30KV
    JS10
    JS20
    DX10D
    KVX10D
    RX10D
    RR-2
    RR-3
    Variations
    KE-3
    Variations
    DXMG
    DKMG
    USA Roswell
    Roswell Pro
    Warrior Pro
    Soloist Pro
    KV-Pro
    Kelly Pro
    Dinky Pro
    Fusion Pro
    That's all I got off the top of my head, I know there's tons more, as well as tons of variations (RR-1T, RR-3R, KV2T, etc etc).
    Last edited by Newc; 11-15-2006, 08:11 AM.
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    A few Jacksons to add off the top of my head:

    PC Archtop
    PC1
    PC2
    SL2
    RR2
    DK1 (late 90's h/s/s and current)
    DR1
    XTRR
    Y2KV
    Archtop (string thru and floyd)
    88 Ltd

    PC3
    PC archtop Pro
    Rhoads Pro
    Y2KV Pro
    SL3
    SL4
    Archtop
    91 Ltd
    Last edited by neilli; 11-15-2006, 08:14 AM.
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    • #3
      Pcs Rr
      Jcf-01
      Jcf-02
      Scott
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      • #4
        Europe only series

        Dr-x
        Rr-x
        Ke-x

        not sure if other body shapes were available also
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        • #5
          and JS-35.
          also europe only and (AFAIK) the same as JS30 but with trem instead of string thru.
          tremstick give-away (performer series trem)

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          • #6
            Dk2
            Slatqh
            Sls

            edit: OK, for some reason, it is not letting me do all CAPS (except the word CAPs, huh, that's intersting)..

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            • #7
              Charvel Avenger
              www.myspace.com/historyofheavymetal

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              • #8
                Originally posted by micha View Post
                and JS-35.
                also europe only and (AFAIK) the same as JS30 but with trem instead of string thru.
                This is correct.


                More to add:
                The Dinky Reverse imports:
                DR3
                DR6
                DR7(T)
                ...I'm pretty sure there are more of those (DR-2, DR-5)?

                DX6
                DX7
                RR7
                KE7 (?)
                JS1
                KX10
                Rhoads EX
                Dinky EX
                Rhoads STD
                Kelly STD
                Kelly XL
                Dinky XL
                ...and more of these, I don't know all the models...

                Performers:
                PS1
                PS2
                PS3(T)
                PS4
                PS6(T)

                Charvel 750XL (with both recessed and non-recessed floyds, and string-thru)
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                • #9
                  Rr5

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                  • #10
                    JJ-1
                    JJ-2
                    JJ-3? not sure about this one
                    JJ-4
                    JJ-5
                    JJP
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                    • #11
                      There are a lot of points someone may want to see them organized by.

                      Newc, how about a spreadsheet for now? It's pretty easy to pivot on any column to create alternate views.

                      Some useful columns:
                      Model, Body style, Years in production, Country of production, List Price, Neck through or bolt-on, Series, who sourced a limited run

                      We can move it to a DB later.

                      And don't forget the Demon.
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                      - Newc

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                      • #12
                        JRS-1
                        JRS-2
                        Surfcasters (both charvel & Jackson)

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                        • #13
                          headstock style, # of strings, logo...
                          I want REAL change. I want dead bodies littering the capitol.

                          - Newc

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                          • #14
                            Anyone with PHP and mysql skills and willing to work for peanuts, please pm me. ASP would work too.

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                            • #15
                              How's this for columns?

                              Model
                              Body Style
                              Country of Manufacture
                              Production Years
                              List price
                              Construction (NT, Set, bolt)
                              logo style (guitar, script)
                              headstock shape
                              # of strings
                              pickup config
                              controls
                              # of frets
                              fretboard wood
                              body wood
                              neck wood
                              inlay design
                              inlay material
                              finish
                              fret size
                              scale
                              bridge type (v-trem, locking trem, tuna, single wraparound)
                              bridge model
                              pickup model
                              destination country (UK, USA, etc)
                              hardware color
                              serial format
                              serial location (sticker, plate, board)
                              bound head
                              bound neck
                              bound body
                              heel shape (San Dimas, scalloped, etc)
                              headstock direction
                              sample photo
                              Last edited by Newc; 11-15-2006, 12:47 PM.
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