J/C Guitars - "Dated" or "Classic"?

[Sanctuary]

but that's like saying dog shit tastes better than cat shit :ROTF:

Like I said, opinions are like assholes. Everyone's got one.

[Sunbane]

September 3, 1990

I stand corrected.

[levantin]

I don't really consider J/C to be "dated" or "classic". IMHO the soloist corrected everything that fender got wrong with the strat (yes I'm a strat hater). The more extreme shapes still look modern and fresh to me, especially when compared with other designs along the same lines (like the alexi or the new ex) that just look fugly. Yes we have had these designs for about 20 years, but if it aint broke, why fix it?

Regarding Jackson being associated with the hair bands, that's your problem U.S. dwellers! Especially here, hair metal was never big and people usually think Megadeth when they think Jackson!

[NextInLine]

Regarding Jackson being associated with the hair bands, that's your problem U.S. dwellers! Especially here, hair metal was never big and people usually think Megadeth when they think Jackson!

Isn't it Megadeth that made Jacksons famous?

Dated or classic I don't like either. I also hate strats and I don't like Les Pauls that much etc. What I want is a modern look, I think Jacksons have it and anytime I see a nice Jackson from recent years I always think what I would have thought if I saw those designs in the 80s. I would probably think they were ultra modern!

I think you can't get any more modern with a guitar that has a KE/RR/KV shape and bound ebony fretboard with sharkies. No need to mention the headstock! And people are still using strats

[wilkinsi]

i'm happy with my WRMG. The first time I saw one, I thought it was futuristic-looking...

[seafoamer]

things are usually considered "Dated" before they are considered "Classic".

[Davey]

OMG!

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[VitaminG]

but that's like saying dog shit tastes better than cat shit :ROTF:

But dog shit does ta.............oh, never mind

Just look around at a lot of the guitars in the stores. Tons of things with Dinky-inspired bodies. I think the Soloist/Dinky are already classics in their own way. Fact is, Jacksons have survived quite well as 'metal' guitars, and I don't see any signs of that decreasing. Forget about all that crap 10 years ago. I see young kids shredding on Jacksons all the time at Guitar Center nowadays.

And in loads of up-and-coming metal bands, until they get ESP or Dean endorsements.

[Death metal soloist]

IMO jackson is not dated. When I think classic guitars I think fender (not jackson) or gibson.

[mm2002]

I love brussel sprouts and broccoli, and most guitars are dated......just check the neck pocket.

[hippietim]

I love brussel sprouts and broccoli, and most guitars are dated......just check the neck pocket.

it was a real pain in the ass to get to the neck pocket of my les paul, i had to practically snap it in two.

[5074charvel]

it´s the supreme quality of J/C that makes it for me. They will become classics for the craftmanship.

I wandered through a guitar stor in Hamburg a couple of weeks ago. They had mostly contemporary stuff, not the high end not the low end. I played through a lot of guitars and finally picked an 80´s Ontario bolt-on. Serial was around 4500. It was changed to a Floyd nut and for whatever reason a piece of the fretboard from the nut to the first fret was formerly removed and then filled again. It didn´t look nice at al. I know this guitar for some time now as they are asking 1400 $ when you can buy those without modification for around 500 $ on ebay.

So what struck me was the incredible sound and incredible playability of this instrument. Better than anything in their store. They action was low, no buzz at all. The oiled neck had this incredible mojo, that makes these instruments so unique for me.

In terms of being a classic I am afraid that the locking tremolo is a niche product that will draw most peoples attention towards other products.

Another story: Two month ago there was a vintage guitar show in Hamburg. It was mostly an exhibition combined with a place to sell guitars. At that time I wanted to sell a Vox Organ Guitar and thought that venue might be a good place to sell. I did not really want to sell other guitars. But since I had to rent 6 feet of the stand I brought some other guitars: A 72 Tele, a 83 Charvel, a Guild Aviator, a Scott Lentz Superstrat, a Steinberger Gm2T, a Fender Showmaster CS.

Guess what was the guitar of interest to the visitors - not even the Vox - it was the Tele. Nobody there paid any attention to the "superstrats".

they used to be hair bands guitars, these days it´s black metal. Both musical styles that are so out of the Mainstrem today, that it would be hard to believe that they ever attract as many attention as any mass product Fender.

Also due to the very limited amount of guitars from the early years, How many were produced from 79 to 90? Maybe 10.000 (RacerX can surly deliver the numbers). That´s what fender cranked out every month or so since the early 60s. People are simply not so aware of the product altogether. As I´ve said before, J/C´s are mostly interesting for retarded 80s metal freaks. And there are not so many of my kind around anymore ... LOL.

[ewright]

Soloists and Dinkys are classic and timeless IMO, but I can see how people might think the Warrior, Rhoads, V, and Kelly are dated...especially with a few of the graphics. I'm not knocking them, I just notice that those body "shapes" seem to be something people either love or hate...no middle ground.

[satch0922]

I think it is all cyclical. Back in the mid to late 80's all the Les Pauls and Strats were in the corner and the J/C, Kramers etc where all the rage. I remember seeing Les Paul Standards for less than $1000 because no one was buying them!

Then it became en vogue to play a "classic" like a Strat or Les Paul and look at the prices of them now. Bottom line is they are all good at what they do. All of them can be very pretty or butt ugly. I think there is nothing dated about the RR or the soloist and the classic Charvel's with the unfinished neck/headstock SCREAMS classic/vintage.

BTW...back in the day I bought a Les Paul because I could not afford a Jackson.....funny how times change.

[RandyRhoads]

Ah, I've been meaning to bring this up for a while now but kept forgetting. I was reading an issue of Total Guitar (really big guitar magazine here in the UK), and a while ago (maybe a year and a half) they did a review of a Dinky. Now, whilst the majority of the review was very promising, the only thing they listed as a down-side was............ THE POINTY HEADSTOCK!!! They said they felt it was looking a little dated! I don't know about anyone else here but I can't imagine Jackson's without the pointy headstock. I know they do them (Round-Horn V's and the PC1 for example) but to ditch the pointy headstack completey would just be plain stupid!