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  • #16
    no, a normal powercable like you use for your amp.

    I had toyed with the idea of using some sort of weight for awhile, and one day at band practice, after playing a few songs with the V, I just had this idea... I took a spare power cable, wrapped it up tightly and put it on the strap like a pearl on a necklace. Did the trick just fine and made this guitar even more fun to play, especially when sweeping.
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    • #17
      DiMarzio ClipLocks are the way to go. You can get them in leather, but the guitar still wants to dive, it's just now it has your shoulder to act as an anchor, and that gets tiring quickly.

      On any bolt-on, I suggest mounting the strap like this:

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      • #18
        I love the look of V's & Star's, but they just never sit right on me.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by snakeboy View Post
          while I have you and we're on the subject... any thoughts on straplocks?
          ~Paul
          Originally posted by shadowcat View Post
          Straplocks are ALWAYS recommend.
          I have NEVER had a quality strap, or a crap strap for that matter, fall off an over sized Jackson/Charvel strap button. I don't see the facination with strap locks. That's just me though.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by StukaJU87 View Post
            I have NEVER had a quality strap, or a crap strap for that matter, fall off an over sized Jackson/Charvel strap button. I don't see the facination with strap locks. That's just me though.
            When I was strap-poor I used the same strap on all my guitars. It doesn't take long for the leather tabs to wear out and slip off the button.

            Plus, there's always the possibility of the tab flipping over and unfolding itself around the button. It doesn't matter when, where, why or how, if it happens, a perfectly good guitar can be ruined.

            With a DiMarzio ClipLock, that is simply not a possibility.

            I let my ex-singer/guitarist play my Les Paul at rehearsal once before I put the ClipLock on it, and he was talking as he was putting it on, but I was watching the strap, because I knew it would flip over due to its own weight, and sure enough, as soon as he had it on, the rear tab rolled off the oversized button (just like every SD Jackson button I've seen - the big one with the wide lip).
            He caught it before it went anywhere, but that let me know right then that it was getting a ClipLock ASAP.

            Banning people from playing your guitar is all well and good, but I've done it myself, and it only takes a second, and I'd rather spend my time playing the guitar than checking the strap every time I lean over my rack or take it off for a break. When I'm ready to play, I don't want to fight with a twirling tab.
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            • #21
              I am a strat guy now, but I was a V guy back in the day (still have them, just do not play them).

              If you try to position an RR (or KV for that matter) the same way that you postion a strat on your body, it will not sit properly 90% of the time. You have to play a V more vertical. If you do, it will not let you down. Also, strap length is important. If you want to have a really long strap and play down around your ankles like some people do with a LP, you will be in for alot of dissappointment IMHO. Even the medium length standard strat placement which most people use is probably not going to do it. If you tighten up the strap and allow the V to sit a little higher than you normally would play a strat, you should notice improved feel, balance and overall playability.

              I also agree that I have never had an over-sized jackson strap button fail me. I had used them on RRs and KVs at practice, live and for just messing around for years. I use them on just about all my guitars, even a warmoth thing I have built. However, schallers are good and I use them on a LP that I have been to lazy to swap in jackson strap buttons on.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by snakeboy View Post
                I had no idea that the RR's varied that much, or else I would have specified, sorry. Yes, it is a bolt-on, an RR-3 to be exact.

                Is the idea of a wide leather strap to prevent slippage? I currently have a thin nylon one (perhaps 1-1/2"). Geez, now I can actually justify that slightly overpriced strap I'd been lusting Thanks, guys!

                I'll give the strap a try, and if that fails I'll move on to the other suggestions.

                Much appreciated!

                777, you have quite the rack of killer axes!!
                Nylon is the worst for 'slippage'. I've since whiched over to a cotton strap. Levy's # MC8-BLK is a 2" cotton in black. It looks like a normal nylon strap, just made of cotton. Guitar Center tagged at $8.99 each. The cotton sticks much better to whatever you are wearing than a nylon strap.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by RR05xx View Post
                  If you try to position an RR (or KV for that matter) the same way that you postion a strat on your body, it will not sit properly 90% of the time. You have to play a V more vertical. If you do, it will not let you down. Also, strap length is important. If you want to have a really long strap and play down around your ankles like some people do with a LP, you will be in for alot of dissappointment IMHO. Even the medium length standard strat placement which most people use is probably not going to do it. If you tighten up the strap and allow the V to sit a little higher than you normally would play a strat, you should notice improved feel, balance and overall playability.
                  Pretty interesting observation. My V's sits fairly high and I've never had a balance problem with these guitars. Supports your theory.
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                  • #24
                    I highly recommend Schaller straplocks...they will never "slip" off simply by their design. I have had a strap come off of oversized buttons, but not from normal playing (it was a "spin the guitar around my neck" incident that I talk about in an Ibanez/Jem thread), so those are a good, cheap alternative though certainly not as safe as the Schallers.

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                    • #25
                      Yep I agree I`m getting Schaller`s
                      Last edited by Special-K; 12-15-2006, 06:54 PM.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Rupe View Post
                        I highly recommend Schaller straplocks...they will never "slip" off simply by their design. I have had a strap come off of oversized buttons, but not from normal playing (it was a "spin the guitar around my neck" incident that I talk about in an Ibanez/Jem thread), so those are a good, cheap alternative though certainly not as safe as the Schallers.

                        LOL! Yeah, I guess you should not use the stock jackson buttons jumping a motercycle either.

                        Seriously, I was never much for the fancy stuff (hell, I dont even use the bar with my trems), but I guess that makes sense if you are going to do tricks.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Sunbane View Post
                          "Just use a wide leather strap"...

                          Sorry, but this doesn't work for everybody. Even if you find a strap that prevents any slippage, the neck heaviness will cause the guitar to swivel around the front strap pin. Even though it will no longer nosedive, it will still be neck heavy and require you to support the neck while playing (i.e. = suckage).
                          I also hate wider straps... anything over 2.5 inches doesn't feel right and tends to slip off my shoulder.
                          2-inch DiMarzio leather Cliplock straps really kick ass, though!
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                          • #28
                            I use a 1" leather strap. Actually I have a couple of them. They come with a movable padded thing about 2" wide, but I just pull those off. They hold great and don't feel like they're exerting a lot of weight on you, unlike those 3"+ leather straps.
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Phantom Hawk View Post
                              Hmmm, never had any balance issues with my RR1. Maybe I just got lucky. As far as strap locks , I really like the Schallers, too.
                              +1 My thoughts exactly.
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Nazgul View Post
                                I presume it's somekind of a bolt-on RR, right? That's EXACTLY how I felt with my RX10D until I moved front strap button like this:


                                You can use the original neck screw and it will fit. Takes less than 5 min to do it .
                                I did this and it˙s much better now..and I also raised the guitar
                                a little bit higher(I shortened the strap)
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