Grover Jackson Guitars... why?

[kuerbo]

I know they are for the Japanese market. But why not just plain 'ol Jackson?
The Grover Jackson logo sucks! [img]graemlins/puke.gif[/img] is it for legal reasons or what?

Anyone know what's up with that?

Thanks guys. [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

[Gpops]

Re: Grover Jackson Guitars... why?

someone in Japan already owns the "jackson" name.. so they resort to grover jackson.

[kuerbo]

Re: Grover Jackson Guitars... why?

So, there is not some kind of "international copyright"??? [img]graemlins/scratchhead.gif[/img]

[ March 22, 2003, 03:38 PM: Message edited by: kuerbo ]

[kuerbo]

Re: Grover Jackson Guitars... why?

Hey Gpops,

Your website expired. I was tryin' to see your guitar, but couldn't. [img]images/icons/confused.gif[/img]

[Gtrplyr666]

Re: Grover Jackson Guitars... why?

not all of the guitars have the plain out, full script grover jackson logo. some have the regular jackson logo with grover jackson in smaller letters next to it. thats what the headstock on my japanese market jackson looks like. great guitars if you get the right one. just my two cents.

Garry

[Gpops]

Re: Grover Jackson Guitars... why?

I know that Kuerbo, but i'm supposedly locked out of my profile so i cant delete the link right now. I'll try again pretty soon.

[Newc]

Re: Grover Jackson Guitars... why?

I've heard various reasons as to why they use Grover Jackson - one is that the Japanese word that most closely sounds like "Jackson" means "asshole" or something. Another one I've heard is there's already another "Jackson" company over there (not guitars).
I would assume they also do that to differentiate between the made in Japan FOR Japan and the made in Japan for the USA markets.
I've also seen "Grover Jackson USA", which no one seems to be able to prove whether they are made in Ontario or not, but a few people have said it (not Jackson employees).

The Grover Jackson Roswell I have is a smoker. It's also got a stopbar instead of strings through the body. I prefer the stopbar [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]
Wish it had Crop Circles [img]images/icons/frown.gif[/img]

Newc

[Alexi7]

Re: Grover Jackson Guitars... why?

Newc, why the stop bar instead of string-thru?
Cheers

[Greg Crowe]

Re: Grover Jackson Guitars... why?

Please quit spreading that "Jackson" is a dirty word in Japanese story. That was a joke told by Brad Kelley years ago and it seems to have spread....... [img]graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[sully]

Re: Grover Jackson Guitars... why?

tim wilson told me that there is a company in japan that owns the name jackson. so, GJ it is. that's easy enough, no?

sully

[Newc]

Re: Grover Jackson Guitars... why?

Alexi - whaddya mean "why"? Why do I like em better or why did they use em?
I like em better just "because". [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]
As for why they used em instead of drilling 6 small holes through the body....anybody's guess [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]
One stopbar, two bolts, and two ferrules is probably less expensive than 12 ferrules [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

Newc

[XXX]

Re: Grover Jackson Guitars... why?

I didnt tell it, Wilson told me that and i beleaved him, im a sucker what can i say? not only till almost a year later he told me it is a copie written name by some other company in Japan

[VoiceX3]

Re: Grover Jackson Guitars... why?

Correct me if I'm wrong almighty Jackson Gurus, But I know that today (and at least for a year or 2) in japan the name on the headstock reads "Jackson Stars". Here's a pic from the website.


hmmmm string thru 24 fret Rhoads w/emg's (standard production model not custom)


Hmmmmm neck thru Kelly Star
(standard production model not custom)

Here's a closeup of the headstock logo's


If you read thru the site it says that these are built in the USA at the Ontario California Shop. Check out the website and do your best to read through the japaneese text....some of it does come up in English, but I found it all quite interesting. the site is Jackson Stars

I think I'm gonna take a trip to Japan and get me a few of these guitars that we've been begging for in the US for years now. That 24 fret Rhoads with stock EMG's and a non custom Kellystar neck thru! I want one!

[Newc]

Re: Grover Jackson Guitars... why?

You can run that site through an online translator like Babelfish and it'll give you some hokey about the USA Ontario shop, but the Japanese Shop does do Custom Orders. I got an NASL 160 last year straight from Japan and the guy who I bought it through said he called the factory abbout getting a Blood Drip Warrior from them, and they said it'd be about a 6 week wait.
The USA Shop is backed up for 18 months, so it had to be the Japanese shop that he spoke to.

http://www.jacksonstars.com/nasl%20type.htm

And they DO still have the Grover Jackson line - the Curious Unique Neckthrough and Maximum Fun Neckthrough models. I think the JacksonStars are a relatively new line, as they feature higher quality components (genuine Floyds and Schallers, genuine Duncans, ebony, pearl, etc) whereas the Grovers usually have the Jackson trems and Duncan Designed pickups.

Newc

[ March 31, 2003, 05:05 PM: Message edited by: Newc ]

[scaristei]

There is a Grover Jackson guitar (all white w/two hum) that looks very cool - that I found on a guitar site in of a store in Las Vegas....(I hope I am not breaking any rules by listing the site - If I am, I am sorry and delete it please, but the site is www.cowtownguitars.com). They seem to speciallize in very vintage and very expensive guitars (mostly fenders). Ck it out !