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    i know J/C cant do gibby shapes. how does hamer & dean get away with making them? especially since i think they are more comparable, same kinda of construction & woods. you cant confuse a jackson for a gibson but a hamer.....maybe.

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    I've heard part of it is a 'gentleman's agreement' between FMIC and Gibson which states that they won't copy each other's body styles (possibly due to abject failure and money wasted in each camp!)...
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    • #3
      Licensing fee?? Not sure. I know that Gibson sued PRS for the single cut design that PRS had for awhile. I think Gibson might have even won that lawsuit.

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      • #4
        Gibson won the initial suit and then PRS won it on appeal.
        The body shape can be made by anyone.
        It's only the combination of the body shape AND headstock design that cannot be produced by anyone other than Gibson.
        -Rick

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        • #5
          No... PRS won it...Gibson lost...
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Special-K View Post
            No... PRS won it...Gibson lost...
            Thats what RJohnstone said.

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            • #7
              oh well....
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              • #8
                Gibson won the initial suit and then PRS won it on appeal.
                That's right. I forgot about the appeal. I do recall a bunch of people on another guitar forum being all excited that their single-cuts were going to be worth more money. hehe.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Super_shredder View Post
                  oh well....
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by kelly user View Post
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by rjohnstone View Post
                      Gibson won the initial suit and then PRS won it on appeal.
                      The body shape can be made by anyone.
                      It's only the combination of the body shape AND headstock design that cannot be produced by anyone other than Gibson.
                      I'm wondering then, why nobody makes a Les Paul shaped Les Paul anymore. Agile changed their horn, as did many other copiers. Other manufacturers change the body shape in other ways.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by cerealkiller View Post
                        Thats what RJohnstone said.
                        Well I have seen it then
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                        • #13
                          If Jackson made a neck-thru Les-Paul shape,I would buy it. So that's probably the reason, Gibson don't let them do it
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by zeegler View Post
                            I'm wondering then, why nobody makes a Les Paul shaped Les Paul anymore. Agile changed their horn, as did many other copiers. Other manufacturers change the body shape in other ways.
                            Probably to be different.
                            Plus, the LP shape has changed a bit over the years as well.
                            My LP copy is exact in every way to a modern LP except the lower horn.
                            It has the sharper 70's style cut to it.
                            -Rick

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                            • #15
                              I think being overseas has something to do with most of them too. From what I understand, companies based outside the USA can easily copy designs without harassment from Gibson, FMIC, etc. I don't think the same laws apply.
                              - Adam

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