VH Tour Dirt

[jrnic]

As for the Eddie vs. Randy thing. That silly argument was run into the ground 20 years ago. It *is* possible to like and respect them both, y'know.

Excellent comment. Very true too. I can remember when VH first came out, I was still in High School and they were so different than everyone else, it was refreshing. Around that time (late 70's) alot of bands sounded very much the same. Then came VH and all of a sudden it was like a big party broke out. I can remember going to house parties where all you heard was Led Zepplin (nothing wrong with that!) But then we cranked VH and it was like turning on a switch. The parties got "funner!" (if that's a word, but it describes it perfectly.)

Van Halen seemed to come around at the right time and gave new life to Hard Rock music and PARTIES!!! It definitely shaped my youth. I started playing guitar because of Ace Frehley and then got into it more because of Eddie. You'll never be able to take away what he did to our generation back then!

[lefty]

you completely missed my point...

... they can't relate to groovy tunes about partying and banging chicks fueled with out of box jazzy guitar solos... good time music is not very popular among serious metal maniacs because still living in mom's basement and having no girlfriends... there's no room for fun... it's all angst and anger

LMAO! You the man, Endrik!

[Bengal]

Umm, that quote is not attributed to "that" bass player, but it IS from an (well, pretty much ) unimpeachable source, and I have heard said party repeat said quote, your honor...

That quote came from Kelly something-or-other, the original bass player in Quiet Riot. It was printed not too long ago in one of the many "Randy Rules" issues of Guitar World...

[AlexL]

That quote came from Kelly something-or-other, the original bass player in Quiet Riot. It was printed not too long ago in one of the many "Randy Rules" issues of Guitar World...

Kelly Garney.

- E.

[Shawn Lutz]

So does anyone here know if there's any truth to the Floyd and Sustainer comments?

Eddie said that his brother actually had the idea for the Floyd Rose. His bro told hm that if you lock it at the nut and bridge then there would be no way it could go out of tune. He said he didnt have a metal shop to build it. I'd tend to believe Floyd Rose's version of events over Ed's.

If I recall Floyd had Randy Hanson try out his trem and bet him he couldnt make it go out of tune and got pissed off because he couldnt make it go out of tune

Eddie did have a say in adding the fine tuners but he invented nothing other that an ugly paint job and hack wiring because he couldnt wire all 3 pickups back up. I find it funny that everyone thinhs EVH is brilliant at anything other than guitar playing. I mean he slaps parts tohether, hacks up bodies and is no luthier yet everyone ans their brother wanted his PoS home made guitar

I'm glad EVH is back playing again sober, DLR back is kool too...Just shut up Ed and playe yer guitar

[pro-fusion]

Van Halen seemed to come around at the right time and gave new life to Hard Rock music and PARTIES!!! It definitely shaped my youth. I started playing guitar because of Ace Frehley and then got into it more because of Eddie. You'll never be able to take away what he did to our generation back then!

That's interesting, because I came along just a little bit later during the Women and Children First/Fair Warning period, when VH were kind of dark and unpredictable. They had an aura of danger about them--at least to my 13-year-old self. Like they were going to come to your town and tear the place apart. And the music from that period was definitely not about having a sunny good time. That was what I liked about them. I lost interest when they went all "shiny and happy" on Diver Down and 1984.

[Endrik]

it's pretty common to LA bands to write about parties, chicks, booze etc. most of the time and then there's a period they write about street life, drug abuse etc. must have the balance... can't be all dark and mean all the time... it would be fake... specially when you have 5 chicks blowing you every night

[Shawn Lutz]

VH was the ultimate party band back in the day

[Endrik]

it ain't a party if VH isn't blasting in the stereo

[skorb]

Glad to hear that the VH tour is doing well. Interestingly, I talked with a guy who did setup for the DC show, and he said that VH were not using recorded backing vocals.

maybe not but there are plenty of vocal harmonizers that can be used to pitch shift their backing vocs and give them an artificial lift. what I've heard of the backing vocs so far from the live recordings have been almost too perfect. so something's being done to them.

[livebiz]

Who cares if someone stripes a blow-out strat or clapped-out Kramer? They're not the real thing and never will be. A 25K Frankie was the biggest FU! to all of VH fans who have stood by him with all of his drama. He's on the cover of Guitar magazine saying "Thank You", earlier this year, for supporting and sticking with him.

Well ED...... how about putting some weight behind that and letting up on your "supportive fans". We want to sell shit on e-bay without your hit squad and we want a reasonably priced guitar from you. (That way there would be no real reason to copy it, mmmmmm... you never thought about that did ya.......).

How is the Frankie an FU? The whole art series is pretty cool and at $1,800 to $2,000 street prices, within reach of most fans. As far as the stripes, you have to protect your trademarks or you will lose them, the trademark stripes are trademarked, they're Ed's property and he has a right to protect it. Wolfgangs were reasonably priced also from the flame top standard, special, to the Korean models.

[guitarsjb]

How is the Frankie an FU? The whole art series is pretty cool and at $1,800 to $2,000 street prices, within reach of most fans. As far as the stripes, you have to protect your trademarks or you will lose them, the trademark stripes are trademarked, they're Ed's property and he has a right to protect it. Wolfgangs were reasonably priced also from the flame top standard, special, to the Korean models.

There's a big difference between $1,800-$2,000 and $25,000. Plus now there is ANOTHER series. Not to mention however many amps there's been. It's just seems it's all about the buck.

[jrnic]

There's a big difference between $1,800-$2,000 and $25,000. Plus now there is ANOTHER series. Not to mention however many amps there's been. It's just seems it's all about the buck.

Yeah, true it is about the bucks. I think some here are being a little too critical! I'm sure any resonable person would want to protect what they started and make as much money as they can. That's the American way. You can't fault a guy for wanting to make as much money as he can. Hell.....if it were me, I'd want to make it too. I think some of you here are over-analyzing this a little too much. Give the guy a break and enjoy all the cool products that are coming out.