An Honest Question

[sakeido]

Yeah, it's called "zazz". And we got it.

Also, I'm not sure what you mean by "xenophobic viewpoint", so I'm going to take that as a sign of disrespect.

Look it up

[Szostak]

Stepping back for a moment, it's kind of interesting how much emotion this topic brings out in people.

You hit it on the nail. Thanks

[JACKSONFREAK]

i just have one word.. Troll... think about it.

[sakeido]

i just have one word.. Troll... think about it.

That is exactly what you are attempting to do, yeah. Point out something I said that was blatantly false.

[Rupe]

I'm not loyal to any single brand. ESP makes some great playing/sounding guitars just as Jackson, Fender, Gibson, Ibanez, GMW, Anderson, Suhr.

The name on the headstock doesn't matter....just as the above mentioned co's can make killer guitars...they also let a few shabby ones slip through the cracks. Would I rather play a bunk Jackson or a killer ESP...I'd take the best player every time

I've yet to see a "shabby" Anderson or Suhr...the company owners play every guitar before it ships. Other than that, right on!

[åron]

I've yet to see a "shabby" Anderson or Suhr...the company owners play every guitar before it ships.

good to hear that some makers are catering to the serious musician, and the gas plagued hacks alike!

I think when I was a young player, maybe 13 years ago, I read a couple interviews with (memory somewhat cloudy on this) Joe Satriani and another top endorser of the time. The story decribed him at the factory going through the production models, looking for the perfect guitars. The players remarked at how all these TOTL guitars sounded different. So they get the pick of the litter as it were, picking out the top 2 or 3 out of large production runs. From those articles and hands on experience, I decided to change the way I buy guitars.

All of the guitars that I've held on to over the years are ones that I was extremely critical with. I sought them out, and AB'd them with my personal guitars and more or less really tried to feel and hear the resonance from the wood. That's where the tone begins and ends.

So.... IMO, the brand by brand comparison is so subjective, and there is always a possibility of getting inferior tone wood. You might say, well shit, I'll get a PRS since I know they have great wood and build quality. I've played some mighty underwhelming PRS in my time, as well as crappy versions of every other guitar out there.

So back to ESP. They make a lot of instruments. Anyone who doubts Japanese craftsmanship, really has their head up their ass. Some of these perfectly crafted guitars are gonna be shit, others are gonna be THE SHIIIIT. If you get a deal with them, you can go find that perfect axe. It's enough to make me go practice.

[FastJunkie]

I love ESP guitars, I don't see why people hate on them

[marcus]

ESP and Ibanez still make some great guitars, but I do feel like their high-end stuff isn't quite as good as when they had their US custom shops going. The good ol' USA still makes the best guitars in the world, and you really can't take that away from us. Cars and stereos and computers and clothes....not so much.

You guys can go ahead and call me xenophobic, but I think the USA makes kick-ass computers, but then I'm probably biased. You are very right about the cars, stereos, and clothes though.

Edit: Oh yeah, you're right about the guitars too lol

[Rich#6]

but I think the USA makes kick-ass computers

What computers do we make?

[Szostak]

What computers do we make?

I'm prety sure HP, Gateway, Dell, Alienware .... the bad ones

[Jacksonite]

mid priced meaning between the SL3 and SL2 or SLSMG and SL2HT

There is no "entry level" USA Jackson to compete with the ESP Standard Series. And whoever said the Japanese Jacksons smoke an ESP standard... uhhh no, I love my SLSMG as much as the next guy, but as soon as I pick up one of those maple boarded M-2s, it is fairly obvious which one is the better guitar (hint: its not the Jackson). If they made an all mahogany w/ebony board ESP M-2, that would be my main player.

the difference in pricing is because the Jackson is a USA made guitar, and it costs more to make a guitar in the USA than it does in Japan...

how can you say the DK2 is crap. The DK2M is still one the best selling super strats out there. and its 630 dollars online for a solid color, and you can get them readily. A SL3 and a Mirage are not equal, the Mirage is a better guitar. but It is not, IN MY OPINION equal to the SL1 or SL2H.

ESPs Custom series guitars are the only ones that I think are = to the USA Jacksons Standard production models, and they arent really any cheaper.

I think ESP is a great company, and I plan of getting them back in my store for 2008. But I dont think they are better than Jackson on the lower end stuff.. honestly, I think the LTD stuff that is below the 400 level is aweful. and the 400 is only a little better. The 1000 is good, but I even had trouble selling it.

[anuske9]

I'm prety sure HP, Gateway, Dell, Alienware .... the bad ones

The only thing American on those computers are the stickers and that's if they are feeling generous...

[goodwood]

The name on the headstock doesn't matter....just as the above mentioned co's can make killer guitars...they also let a few shabby ones slip through the cracks. Would I rather play a bunk Jackson or a killer ESP...I'd take the best player every time

I'm with you on that one. I have guitars in 16 different brand/location combinations...there are great guitars everywhere...

-5 brands of USA (Gibson, Fender, Jackson, G&L, Taylor)
-1 brand of Japanese built/USA assembled (Kramer American Series)
-4 brands of Japanese (Charvel, Ibanez, Yamaha, Kramer F series)
-3 brands of Korean (ESP/LTD, Ibanez, G&L Tribute)
-3 brands of Canadian (Morgan, Seagull, La Patrie)
-1 brand of unknown origin (old Washburn-assume USA but unknown)

...no Chinese or Indonesian yet but I have played some good ones.

[marcus]

The only thing American on those computers are the stickers and that's if they are feeling generous...

BS. Lets see, Intel, AMD, Microsoft, Micron, Apple, IBM etc. All American companies and I could go on and on. Yes a lot of this stuff is manufactured in other countries. Not all though. Personally, I believe it is much better for the economy to do the designs than manufacturing. And honestly, a very large percentage of the parts are designed in America, and with very high quality too.

[marcus]

I'm prety sure HP, Gateway, Dell, Alienware .... the bad ones

These guys just take parts that are built by other companies and put them together. There is really not a huge difference in quality in these kinds of companies, and they were not what I was talking about.