An Honest Question

[anuske9]

BS. Lets see, Intel, AMD, Microsoft, Micron, Apple, IBM etc. All American companies and I could go on and on. Yes a lot of this stuff is manufactured in other countries. Not all though. Personally, I believe it is much better for the economy to do the designs than manufacturing. And honestly, a very large percentage of the parts are designed in America, and with very high quality too.

The large majority of products that those companies sell are not only manufactured in other countries, but I also imagine a majority of those companies don't pay American taxes (that goes for both groups mentioned). Yes, those companies got their start here and their products are largely designed here, but as far as what he mentioned, like you said, "they were not what I was talking about.". I never mentioned quality regarding either group (Dude, you got a Dell ) , only the integrity of those brands that he mentioned.

[marcus]

The large majority of products that those companies sell are not only manufactured in other countries, but I imagine a majority of those companies also don't pay American taxes (that goes for both groups mentioned). Yes, those companies got their start here and their products are largely designed here, but as far as what he mentioned, like you said, "they were not what I was talking about.". Also, I never knocked the quality, only the integrity of those brands he mentioned.

Fair enough, but all of the companies I mentioned actually do manufacture quite a bit in this country. There are actually quite a few semiconductor fabrication operations here. Yes, they have been gradually moving overseas like everything else, but some of that manufacturing capacity is still here. And I assure you, these companies all pay a lot of taxes in the US.

And just to be clear, the point I was making is that virtually every PC sold everywhere has something from the US. Hell, I only had to mention MS to make that point, LOL.

[goodwood]

You are surprised here

how can you say the DK2 is crap. The DK2M is still one the best selling super strats out there.

is like many people's surprise at your statement

I think ESP is a great company...But I dont think they are better than Jackson on the lower end stuff.. honestly, I think the LTD stuff that is below the 400 level is aweful. and the 400 is only a little better.

I've tried below 400 series stuff that was incredible not even knowing the price.

There are many pros using 400 series...I think that the quality of the 400 series (of which I have 2) is about the same as my USA Jackson. Seriously...the Jackson has the locking nut ABOVE the regular nut...hilarious.

As for the 1000 series...a bit too much 'bling' for most so I think many peopl opt for the less flashy series, including me really...even though I have 2 of them as well.

[Jacksonite]

You are surprised here

is like many people's surprise at your statement

I've tried below 400 series stuff that was incredible not even knowing the price.

There are many pros using 400 series...I think that the quality of the 400 series (of which I have 2) is about the same as my USA Jackson. Seriously...the Jackson has the locking nut ABOVE the regular nut...hilarious.

As for the 1000 series...a bit too much 'bling' for most so I think many peopl opt for the less flashy series, including me really...even though I have 2 of them as well.

I have the stuff in my store.. and I wasnt impressed by it at all, I thought the Schecter counterparts were better. I thought the EC1000 that I had was very lackluster. and the EC400 AT was the best of all of them. They 400 EC and Vipers that were the olympic white with the EMGs were less than stellar.

I thnk the Japanese stuff is great. I just was unimpressed by the LTD stuff. To the point when I get ESP for 08, I am not getting any of the LTDs.

some trems had behind the nut locking systems, is your jackson of those?

My opinion is based on my experience trying to sell them.

[anuske9]

Fair enough, but all of the companies I mentioned actually do manufacture quite a bit in this country. There are actually quite a few semiconductor fabrication operations here. Yes, they have been gradually moving overseas like everything else, but some of that manufacturing capacity is still here. And I assure you, these companies all pay a lot of taxes in the US.

And just to be clear, the point I was making is that virtually every PC sold everywhere has something from the US. Hell, I only had to mention MS to make that point, LOL.

"US semiconductor manufacturers have 47% of the world chip market, but only 20% of new production is in construction in the US" ...

My point was to call out those brands originally mentioned, (but I did that by insulting the parts makers themselves (?!)) It was intended to be a joke, reflecting the fact that so much is getting outsourced. I acknowledge your point, although you should probably look into the claim about the taxes. Microsoft, Broadcom, and Intel don't pay very much in taxes. We are largely on the same page, but I'm a little off today, so take it easy.

[marcus]

"US semiconductor manufacturers have 47% of the world chip market, but only 20% of new production is in construction in the US" ...

My point was to call out those brands originally mentioned, (but I did that by insulting the parts makers themselves (?!)) It was intended to be a joke, reflecting the fact that so much is getting outsourced. I acknowledge your point, although you should probably look into the claim about the taxes. Microsoft, Broadcom, and Intel don't pay very much in taxes. We are largely on the same page, but I'm a little off today, so take it easy.

No problem. Sorry if I came across as a little sensitive - I actually design computer components, and thus my initial post boosting the US computer industry. The design teams for these components are actually getting outsourced as well, but I think we still do a good job of this stuff here.

[toejam]

Seriously...the Jackson has the locking nut ABOVE the regular nut...hilarious.

And what year is your guitar? Jackson hasn't used that type of locking nut in a very long time.

[anuske9]

No problem. Sorry if I came across as a little sensitive - I actually design computer components, and thus my initial post boosting the US computer industry. The design teams for these components are actually getting outsourced as well, but I think we still do a good job of this stuff here.

That's awesome, and I have the schooling to build/troubleshoot computers. I haven't figured out what I really what to do yet, though. What does your design team specialize in, or what kind of components have you worked on?

[anuske9]

And what year is your guitar? Jackson hasn't used that type of locking nut in a very long time.

What do you expect from a guy who's name is goodwood?

[marcus]

That's awesome, and I have the schooling to build/troubleshoot computers. I haven't figured out what I really what to do yet, though. What does your design team specialize in, or what kind of components have you worked on?

Right now I work on high-speed serial IOs. I have in the past designed microprocessors, network processors, and chipsets for various companies. Ironically, after all I've said, I now work for a British company I am still based in the US though.

[anuske9]

Right now I work on high-speed serial IOs. I have in the past designed microprocessors, network processors, and chipsets for various companies. Ironically, after all I've said, I now work for a British company I am still based in the US though.

high-speed serial IO's for what?

[goodwood]

And what year is your guitar? Jackson hasn't used that type of locking nut in a very long time.

I know that they don't use that style anymore...
It's a 1985...back when everyone says Jackson REALLY made them well...see...it's all perspective. Of my 29 stringed instruments, the ESP made (and the LTD guitars) are the best of the bunch OR at least neck and neck with them.

Jacksonite, my point is that you could put down the LTD and say "that's no good" and pick up the Jackson and say "yes...that's it"...meanwhile another player will do the opposite. I tried a Jackson in a store recently and although I really liked the neck, the hardware was not very nice, the bridge was something I'd rip off if I owned it, and the rest of the guitar was passable...the rig isn't something that I'd accept if someone offered it to me along with $300 for either my EC 400 or my EC 400AT.
I think that many people still make decisions based on the name on the headstock.

[marcus]

high-speed serial IO's for what?

More or less general purpose. They can be used for things such as PCI-express, serial-ATA, higher speed ethernet protocols, etc.

[Szostak]

Alright, sorry about sparking that computer intervention there, i'll keep it shut next time

[Jacksonite]

I
Jacksonite, my point is that you could put down the LTD and say "that's no good" and pick up the Jackson and say "yes...that's it"...meanwhile another player will do the opposite. I tried a Jackson in a store recently and although I really liked the neck, the hardware was not very nice, the bridge was something I'd rip off if I owned it, and the rest of the guitar was passable...the rig isn't something that I'd accept if someone offered it to me along with $300 for either my EC 400 or my EC 400AT.
I think that many people still make decisions based on the name on the headstock.

yeah, I understand that, but I am talking as a store owner. I couidnt give them away.. for the pricing there are other guitars out there that are better, and honestly, for each model of the LTD there is a "basically" equivalent Schecter out there, for a little bit less, and the QC from Schecter is better than anyones. so the fit and finish is better than that of the LTDs (that I recieved in the store)
I sold only a handful of them, but overall they were just lower quality than the Jackson