attention screw counters!!!!! was the 83 namm rhoads models gibson scale?

[neilli]

I appreciate that pickup location isn't the be all end all for something like this, but I have 2 short scale XTRRs with dual hums, and the pickups look much closer together than they do on my h/h 25.5" XTRRs....

[xenophobe]

I was going to initiate scale from the pup size, but if I can render it accurately, I can scale from the srew sizes. Autocad is some amazing stuff, when used correctly.

Scale off bridge width.

[sonicsamurai]

this is a great thread. really interesting. perhaps they figured most guitarists were bigger so started mass production in the other scale, or maybe here as more of ademand for the longer scale from ther early jackson and charvel ebdorsees? although i can't think of anyone else famous using the rhoads other than chris holmes...or dan spitz mucxh later, but he's a midget so probably woulda preferred the smaller scale length

[~K~]

Correction:I have little experience rendereing from anything at all, I use Autocad to make drawings. So, any help, and pm me for an email address to send the best pictures available, and I can give it a shot.
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Graphic files sit in what is called raster format. This means that they are graphic with no mathematical value. You need to convert the image from a graphic (bmp,jpg etc) to what is called a vector format. Vector is bascially mathematical points. Once youdo that it can be saved as a DXF file and brought into any cad package. Some packages have the conversion built in.


Once it is in in the software you now have mathematical points so it is just a matter of scaling the photo .....

[MEX3]

Why not just ask the guy who has the guitar rather than go through all the troubles you are proposing???
Email: [email protected]

Work smarter, not harder...

[Cygnus X1]

Graphic files sit in what is called raster format. This means that they are graphic with no mathematical value. You need to convert the image from a graphic (bmp,jpg etc) to what is called a vector format. Vector is bascially mathematical points. Once youdo that it can be saved as a DXF file and brought into any cad package. Some packages have the conversion built in.


Once it is in in the software you now have mathematical points so it is just a matter of scaling the photo .....

So, where do I do the vector conversion? After importing
the image into the drawing space?
I'm able to paste the .bmp into my drawing space,
but can't do much with it after that. And converting the
image, with the dimension lines, back into .bmp blocks
everything but the dimension lines.

Program is Autocad 2000i, Mechanical Desktop...I don't know
if that's what you're familiar with, or not...anyone?

[daisp]

Great Topic...can't wait to find out! good work fella's

[~K~]

Hmmm ..wow, we never thought of that

I don't consider a fact finding mission such as this trouble, it's fun .... kind of the point

Why not just ask the guy who has the guitar rather than go through all the troubles you are proposing???
Email: [email protected]

Work smarter, not harder...

[~K~]

So, where do I do the vector conversion? After importing
the image into the drawing space?
I'm able to paste the .bmp into my drawing space,
but can't do much with it after that. And converting the
image, with the dimension lines, back into .bmp blocks
everything but the dimension lines.

Program is Autocad 2000i, Mechanical Desktop...I don't know
if that's what you're familiar with, or not...anyone?

I use Mastercam and Solidworks .... I don't know much about Autocad tools ..

I use traceart to convert from Raster to Vector and save as DXF which is native to Autocad ...

[shreddermon]

I'm thinking it was 25.5, as originally thought. In the "ghost" pic, notice the fret size difference starts small at 1st fret, gets larger until about the 7th or 9th fret, then starts to get smaller again as you get closer to the 22nd fret. I don't think that'd be consistent with a difference in scale length - probably more likely an optical illusion of the two pics.

Cool topic, though.

[Robert Burns]

I had no idea you guys were the "Myth Busters" !

[Cygnus X1]

Somehow, I think the answer will come out some other way than scaling pictures...
The two pictures would have to be taken from nearly the same exact focal point.
I was able to "measure" the two in Autocad, but I don't trust the results.
Measurement, Nut to 21st fret:
RR on the left is 11.779
RR on the right is 11.054
Pasted directly, not scaled in any way.

[Firebird V]

Wow. Great topic. I always thought perhaps that it was a Gibson short scale length. I would/ could measure it up If i were able to get accuraate pics as wwell. Getting in touch with the person that has the guitar right now would be the best answer if that is possible though.

The JCF - 01 guitars were more like Vinnie Vincent's pink V look-wise IMO (other than the obvious color) then the Lost Rhoads. All said and done they rock and are still a special tribute.


EDIT:


My neckthru Jackson Explorer is 24.75" scale so if a pic of that would help then let me know...

[~K~]

Photos scale by virtue of their respective sizes. When you convert from raster to vector you should end up with a guitar that is 8 feet tall give or take a hundred feet ..LOL Once you get that you can scale it down to it's proper size and my experience has been such that it fairly accurate. I've done it with pickguards and gotten the desired results ...

The photo by distance wont change because the proportions all change the same. The only thing that can affect it would be a z axis tilt away from the photographer (IE Headstock being further from the camera than the body)


I'm pretty sure you can get a decent reading guitar to guitar this way ...Heck all Jackson uses is tracings to recreate them

[~K~]

BTW .. This isn't meant to piss Rhoads fans off, it isn't anything more than a postive fun thread. (Beats the arguing that seems to happen here ) For the last 5-6 years of looking at the 01's it always stuck in my mind that there was too much of a size difference from the lost Rhoads to the 01s to not think something was a possibility ...