attention screw counters!!!!! was the 83 namm rhoads models gibson scale?

[~K~]

Chris that may be a great idea .. post one please ..

Wow. Great topic. I always thought perhaps that it was a Gibson short scale length. I would/ could measure it up If i were able to get accuraate pics as wwell. Getting in touch with the person that has the guitar right now would be the best answer if that is possible though.

The JCF - 01 guitars were more like Vinnie Vincent's pink V look-wise IMO (other than the obvious color) then the Lost Rhoads. All said and done they rock and are still a special tribute.


EDIT:


My neckthru Jackson Explorer is 24.75" scale so if a pic of that would help then let me know...

[sully]

I had no idea you guys were the "Myth Busters" !

Actually, the JCF used to have a LOT of these kind of threads. When we were talkin' about this last night, it reminded me of then.

Hmmm ..wow, we never thought of that

I don't consider a fact finding mission such as this trouble, it's fun .... kind of the point

Yes, totally fun. But I've also emailed the dude.

sully

[sully]

i've heard back from sean; seems like a really nice guy. he thinks that it's gibson scale, but will check and get back to me. he'll also be playing with accomplice and xyz at namm, so be sure to say hi.

more updates as i get them!

[MetalMedal II]

Why not just ask the guy who has the guitar rather than go through all the troubles you are proposing???
Email: [email protected]

Yeah, that's the dude. Here's a link to his website that's got those photos of him from GW with the Rhoads. Maybe these can be of use as well:

http://www.seanmichaelclegg.com/gallery.html

[MetalMedal II]

i've heard back from sean; seems like a really nice guy. he thinks that it's gibson scale, but will check and get back to me. he'll also be playing with accomplice and xyz at namm, so be sure to say hi.

more updates as i get them!

Cool beans! Another interesting thing looking at his gallery pics is that the pickup rings are brass/gold in color while they clearly look black in the original b&w photo at the top of this thread...actually looking closer they are clearly different now as the brass ones have 3 holes at each height screw. Also, a mini-switch was added to the pickguard...blasphemy!

[~K~]

he thinks that it's gibson scale, but will check and get back to me.

I guess your closer to understanding just why the 01s are different. Now the big question. If the lost Rhoads is Gibby scale then Sully may have a point about the concorde

[sully]

Cool beans! Another interesting thing looking at his gallery pics is that the pickup rings are brass/gold in color while they clearly look black in the original b&w photo at the top of this thread...actually looking closer they are clearly different now as the brass ones have 3 holes at each height screw. Also, a mini-switch was added to the pickguard...blasphemy!

yeah, it's been modded, but considering some of the mods we've seen, we should count our lucky stars that it doesn't have a kahler on it! :ROTF:

[Top Jimmy B]

The Namm Rhoads must be short scale. That's the only explanation for it having that "crunchy sustain", as Sean Clegg describes it.

[shreddermon]

I'm still betting 25.5", but WTF do I know?

[~K~]

I'm still betting 25.5", but WTF do I know?

Pat, did you start your new years celebration early?

[Firebird V]

Here is a pic of the RR1 I have next to the Explorer. See the difference? It is quite noticable. Ignpre the one on the left as it is a 25.5 scale bolt on. The RR1 and the Korina jackson are the ones to look at. They are both hung at about the same spot. If you were to draw a parrallel line at the ends of the fretboard you would see that the RR1 is longer. Alos look at where the bridges are in relation to each other. Pickups too. Interesting enough, the Jackson Firebird I have is Fender scale and all the ESP fbirds I have are Gibson scale. I tend the Explorer the most out of all the guitars I own and then the ESP fbirds. I must say that I do love the 24.75 scale for its tone and it seems to be a bit easier to do big stretches and seeps for me. I got regular/small size hands.

Hope the pic helps. If you need more just lmk.

I remember the days of a long time ago when the JCF was loaded with great topics like this. lol.

[shreddermon]

Pat, did you start your new years celebration early?

[Rich#6]

It makes sense to me that it would be short scale since he wanted it to sound/be like his les paul. ie mahogany wings.

[Newc]

Not to mention that the Concorde looks like his Les Paul Custom if it was made of a malleable material - compare the toggle locations, and the fact that the pinstripes look like LPC binding.

Jackson probably will not make a 24 3/4" scale LTD Rhoads (Concorde) - despite the amount of people that would line up and willingly drop a ton on them.

For one thing, it would diminish the signifigance and individuality of the original if anyone else could say "Yeah, I've got one of those".


Not trying to be a downer, but the best course of action is always to keep an eye on reality.

[j2379]

very cool

most of the very early string thru RRs had the V plate closer to the bridge, so do PCS's. even the 84 RRs its moved back a bit but nowhere near where it is now. also the pckguards i dont know about size wise but. the early RR's had it right up against the side of the pickup bezels & up past the neck pup into the shoulder. later ones & even early ones w/kahler/floyd's the pickguard is not against the pup bezels & down. again the PCS looks correct for the early placement.
IMHO the intonation only looks like the because of the bridge being angled. the saddles themselves are probably in similar positions