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DISCLAIMER: this is by no means negatively intended. just something that has transpired this evening, and imo, a kickass topic to discuss.
in discussing the lost rhoads with mayday tonight, i was speaking of how the differences between jcf01 and the original guitar always bugged me. we started looking closer and found these differences:
- the logo is wrong (the J isn't the same)
- the pickups are the wrong color (b/w on jcf01, b/creme on original)
- the v plate is closer to the bridge (and larger) on the original than jcf01.
- the pickguard reaches higher up the body on the original than jcf01; see how the tip extends past the neck pickup on the original? jcf 01's stops at the neck pickup.
- the controls are spaced closer together on the original than jcf01.
- the original's body joins the neck at the top of the 18th fret instead of at the bottom of the 19th fret on jcf 01 (which is an RR1 body). the difference is about 5/8 of an inch.
- the pickups are closer together on the original than jcf01.
- the bridge is angled on the original while jcf 01 is straight.
as we were speaking, we've come to the theory that the namm rhoads models were 24.75 scale, not 25.5. now, this was a theory floated soon after jcf01 was shipped and received, but it wasn't discussed. it would make sense if randy's guitars were 24.75, considering he loved his les paul.
so what i did was take the namm rhoads pic and compare it with the 25th anniversary rhoads model. i used the 25th, because i know that the 25th anniversary rhoads is a 25.5 scale guitar, and i had a good pic of it that would match up well with the namm rhoads pic. i then put the 25th over the namm rhoads, and made the 25th transparent so we can compare it better. i used the pole pieces on the neck pickup as my reference point, along where the nut is, because the headstock and body shapes will be different, but neck pickups haven't changed (there's no F spaced neck pickups). as you look, you'll see that the 25th's frets are spaced out wider than the namm rhoads, which suggests that the namm rhoads is truly 24.75 scale. i'll post the pix that we've looked at below.
first, jcf 01:
then the namm rhoads:
the other thing that i looked at is how the intonation is set on both guitars. assuming that both guitars are intonated, scroll back up and look at the difference between them.
finally, here's the comparison pic:
and finally, another comparison shot:
the comparison shots may not be dead on, but it's very close, and you can see that there's a fret spacing difference.
i was going to use a jcf01 pic in the comparison but the pix that i have of it are not as of high res as the 25th pic that i have. since i know that jcf01 and the 25th rhoads are both 25.5 scale, it doesn't matter.
so, if the namm rhoads models were 24.75 scale, is the original concorde? i'll look at the display pix that were posted awhile back and see if there's a good shot that i can use to compare them. but think of this: if randy's jackson guitars were 24.75 scale, the PCS series are wrong, the LTDs are wrong, hell, the RR model is kinda wrong when you think of it (unless randy said that he wanted a 25.5 scale guitar).
...so does this mean we can order 24.75 LTD style guitars without a hassle?
what do you guys think? and is there anyone who can properly scale a pic?
sully
in discussing the lost rhoads with mayday tonight, i was speaking of how the differences between jcf01 and the original guitar always bugged me. we started looking closer and found these differences:
- the logo is wrong (the J isn't the same)
- the pickups are the wrong color (b/w on jcf01, b/creme on original)
- the v plate is closer to the bridge (and larger) on the original than jcf01.
- the pickguard reaches higher up the body on the original than jcf01; see how the tip extends past the neck pickup on the original? jcf 01's stops at the neck pickup.
- the controls are spaced closer together on the original than jcf01.
- the original's body joins the neck at the top of the 18th fret instead of at the bottom of the 19th fret on jcf 01 (which is an RR1 body). the difference is about 5/8 of an inch.
- the pickups are closer together on the original than jcf01.
- the bridge is angled on the original while jcf 01 is straight.
as we were speaking, we've come to the theory that the namm rhoads models were 24.75 scale, not 25.5. now, this was a theory floated soon after jcf01 was shipped and received, but it wasn't discussed. it would make sense if randy's guitars were 24.75, considering he loved his les paul.
so what i did was take the namm rhoads pic and compare it with the 25th anniversary rhoads model. i used the 25th, because i know that the 25th anniversary rhoads is a 25.5 scale guitar, and i had a good pic of it that would match up well with the namm rhoads pic. i then put the 25th over the namm rhoads, and made the 25th transparent so we can compare it better. i used the pole pieces on the neck pickup as my reference point, along where the nut is, because the headstock and body shapes will be different, but neck pickups haven't changed (there's no F spaced neck pickups). as you look, you'll see that the 25th's frets are spaced out wider than the namm rhoads, which suggests that the namm rhoads is truly 24.75 scale. i'll post the pix that we've looked at below.
first, jcf 01:
then the namm rhoads:
the other thing that i looked at is how the intonation is set on both guitars. assuming that both guitars are intonated, scroll back up and look at the difference between them.
finally, here's the comparison pic:
and finally, another comparison shot:
the comparison shots may not be dead on, but it's very close, and you can see that there's a fret spacing difference.
i was going to use a jcf01 pic in the comparison but the pix that i have of it are not as of high res as the 25th pic that i have. since i know that jcf01 and the 25th rhoads are both 25.5 scale, it doesn't matter.
so, if the namm rhoads models were 24.75 scale, is the original concorde? i'll look at the display pix that were posted awhile back and see if there's a good shot that i can use to compare them. but think of this: if randy's jackson guitars were 24.75 scale, the PCS series are wrong, the LTDs are wrong, hell, the RR model is kinda wrong when you think of it (unless randy said that he wanted a 25.5 scale guitar).
...so does this mean we can order 24.75 LTD style guitars without a hassle?
what do you guys think? and is there anyone who can properly scale a pic?
sully
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