attention screw counters!!!!! was the 83 namm rhoads models gibson scale?

[Genebaby]

So we'll be seeing a name change to Randyrocker soon maybe?.....

[Stinkbug]

Also, Nobody ever refers to Randy with his Black LPC either... If I remember it correctly it was a 3 PU LPC Black Beauty with the covers removed yes?

I seem to remember reading that he didn't have the Black Les Paul for very long before he died. Also, I think it was like a '57 or 58' so it might not have been a touring guitar for him. He may have just used it for that photo shoot and it never made it to player status.

Someone will probably be able to back that up or correct me...it has been a while...

[Firebird V]

Yes I have heard the same story. He only acquired the Black LPC that year or so before his death. His Polka Dot Sandoval, White LPC and Concorde Jackson are the only guitars that ever get any publicity. Most likely because he was photographed with those the most I guess. I wonder how much of his recordings were done with his other guitars though.... Anybody know? My guess would be that his White LPC was his main recording guitar too. Did he record any of BOZ or DOAM with any of his other guitars? I remember reading somewhere that was an interview I think with Randy and he said that the Sandoval did not intonate well. He also said something in the article about choosing the fulcrum tremolo over the Floyd but I can't remember why... I am sure there is an expert out there that can dig it up...

[J.C. Harrist]

From Guitar Player Magazine, November 1982

A Biography by Family, Friends, and Fellow Musicians As told to Jas Obrecht


Grover Jackson:

I made a couple of the guitars that Randy played up until his death: the white offset-V kind of instrument, and the black one. These have "Jackson" on the peghead. Randy contributed quite a bit to their design. He came in Christmas of '80 with a crude line drawing of a guitar, and said, "Can you make this?" I said, "Well, let's change this and that." I added the head design to it, and he and I worked together and made the white one. He contributed 50% or better of its design.
The instruments have long, fairly small bodies that are easy to get around. They have a neck-through-the-body solid maple construction, 22 frets, a 25 1/2" scale, and Seymour Duncan pickups: a Jazz model in the neck position and a Distortion. They have binding on the neck and around the head, and a special pearl inlay that Randy came up with. The white one had one of Charvel's standard tremolo units on it.
One of the main differences between the white one and the black one is that the black one has a pickguard and a lengthened, thinned-out rear wing. Randy complained that too many people thought the white one was a Flying V, and he wanted a more distinctively shark-finned design, more off-center. When we actually got the black one made as a wooden, unfinished guitar. Randy came in and said, "More." I literally took it to the bandsaw and cut a chunk out of it with him standing there. He said, "Yeah, yeah. That's it!" It was a pretty creative process.
I got the black one to him just before the tour, and then a few months later he was gone. I am going to market a version of the black one as the Randy Rhoads Model, although he wanted to call it the Randy Rhoads Concorde or just the Concorde. He really wanted to see that guitar happen.

[zeegler]

End thread/

[sully]

yeah, i'd kinda say so, unless i hear from mister clegg.

[Firebird V]

So it sounds like that part of the JCF-01 series was right on then.

[roodyrocker]

So we'll be seeing a name change to Randyrocker soon maybe?.....

Hmm, has a nice ring to it. I might have to use that

[sully]

I heard back from Sean, it's 25.5" scale.

[shreddermon]

Mystery solved!

[sully]

indeed!

[MetalMedal II]

I heard back from Sean, it's 25.5" scale.

Phew, that was a close one,....everyone with a JCF-01 almost had to send back theirs to Jackson to get rescaled! I'm sure they'd be happy to accomodate.

[Archtop]

This has been a fun thread to follow. Strangely though, I was hoping to find out that Randy's were actually 24.75" scale. Not as a dis to the JCF-01 or anything like that. But it would have been pretty funny to find out that all regular production RR's weren't using the original scale length.

[sully]

i'm with ya!