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  • #31
    Originally posted by Newc View Post
    And they would be viewed as Johnny-come-latelys since other brands have that pretty well covered.
    Not really, there is only 1 MIJ 8-string and 1 MIJ 7-string both made by Ibanez. The other 8-strings are MIK LTD's for over $1000.

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    • #32
      Hmm, I thought more companies were already supplying that market?

      But then, how long is this market expected to last? Is the potential ROI great enough to warrant the attempt?

      Jackson already bowed out of the 7-string race, leaving only the C.O.W.

      Perhaps they realize that the only way to compete price-wise in those arenas is to put out a sub-standard product?
      I want to depart this world the same way I arrived; screaming and covered in someone else's blood

      The most human thing we can do is comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable.

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      • #33
        There are a bunch of other 7-strings but no other 8-strings. The other 7's are all Korean or worse though so I don't really count them.

        I figure if people are willing to pay $1500 for the Ibanez RG2228 which is a black, fixed bridge, bolt-on, basswood bodied MIJ guitar then they would pay $1500 for a Japanese Soloist 8-string with better woods.

        I could be wrong though, I don't pretend to know much about what sells or what people in general want to buy.

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        • #34
          Do they SELL for $1500, or is that the MSRP?

          That's a very high price for that configuration, though if the 8th string is a G or lower, then it'll sound like mud on a neckthrough.

          As well, are these 8-string players using more than the low 4? Are they using all 8 strings?
          I want to depart this world the same way I arrived; screaming and covered in someone else's blood

          The most human thing we can do is comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable.

          My Blog: http://newcenstein.com

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          • #35
            1499 is the price they're sold for - how many actually sell is anyone's guess but greater than zero. Retail is 1999

            I don't think it would necessarily result in mud. Even the LTD FM-408 has been reviewed favorably at sevenstring.org and it's a 25.5" scale maple neck-through basswood body. Those just came out and sell for $999, retail 1427.

            The people I've seen using them were mainly playing boring stuff on the bottom 3 strings, but there are plenty of kids who are into it for whatever reason. I personally am thinking about getting the LTD model and stringing it B-E-A-D-G-B-E-A.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Newc View Post
              Jackson took that chance and learned their lessons: SweeTone series, anyone? The Jazz'R was perfect, IMO, but obviously I'm in the minority on that.
              I will agree that SweeTone did fail, but I don't think it was because of lack of interest. I think the way it was marketed, and the time it was introduced is the reason it did as bad as it did.

              I for one would absolutely love the see the SweeTone series brought back, and I think if they were to market it correctly it could actually be pretty successful.

              I can dream

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              • #37
                Dude what are you guys talking about ,

                I tune to drop z with my 99 gauge strings and I only need my 14 string hondo ??????
                Enjoying a rum and coke, just didn't have any coke...

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                • #38
                  Pfft I tune to Zb

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                  • #39
                    troy ,

                    +1
                    Enjoying a rum and coke, just didn't have any coke...

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                    • #40
                      loyalty

                      I think Jackson/Charvel is perfectly fine the way they are, who needs 7,8 string, and chambered guitars anyway. leave that to ibanez, esp, gibson and prs that is where their strength lies. let Jackson make the hotrod kickass metal guitars, i would like to see a reverse soloist w/ an oiled neck, will that happen most likely not. no demand or very little. atleast i get a good choice of finishes and although higher today still a good price compared to the one finish you get on all prs,gibson, fender, ibanez's and esp's for about 1000 dollar or more upcharge. try finding any one of them whose standard models run in 20+ finish options, any model, plus quality is generally great and IMO they sound better. And when is the last time anyone saw Steve Vai use a guitar with more than 6 strings Ok im done raving now

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by thetroy View Post
                        Pfft I tune to Zb

                        Isn't that the only way you can play an M Chord?
                        Prosecutors will be violated...

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Newc View Post


                          So what kinda commission we talkin if you can find me a motivated buyer for The Halford?

                          I would consider myself a marketing genius but I am not a miracle worker.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Newc View Post
                            Remember those 10 White BloodDrip Warriors OnlineStageGear did a few years ago? Plenty of people showed interest. 2 showed money. 2 people got a white Warrior with the BloodDrip finish, and one of them was Matt(OSG) himself.
                            I just wanted to make one small correction here. Although 10 were slated to be produced, I don't think they made more than 3-4 of them. Myself and Remcarr were the two JCFer's who bought the two you mentioned. I know the first one ended up being for sale as used on Matt's website but I don't know if Matt was the original owner or just ended up with it again, not sure. It was shortly after that when Matt and Jackson parted ways, I'm not sure of the reason but perhaps thats why the other blood drip Warriors were not produced. So thats the story on at least 3 of those special Warriors. Anyway, Matt from OnlineStageGear was great to deal with and I'm glad he's back with Jackson. It would be nice to see Matt from Matt's Music back with them again too.
                            Rudy
                            www.metalinc.net

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by BeëlzeM View Post
                              Look at all the other companies, they all make high end models with a fixed bridge, Jackson does too but they are very limited and the KV2T looks like crap.
                              Bite your tongue! The KV2T is not only sweet looking.....it's the best sounding and best player in the whole lineup.

                              Originally posted by Brooke View Post
                              But yes I totally agree that there isn't an actual KV2T. The Current KV2T is really not a KV2T, 3 and 3 headstock, no bevels, rounded fretboard, jumbo frets.

                              I like the Mahogany though..
                              Does that really matter in model naming? What about the unbevelled Kellys? What about reverse headstock guitars....they don't all get the "R" designation.
                              Transitioning from Retired Musician from cover bands to a Full time vocalist/frontman/guitarist in an original and covers band....it's been a while and this should get NASTY!

                              Check out the new band at - https://www.facebook.com/PerfectStormMetal/?fref=nf

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by guitarnut1980 View Post
                                Steve Vai use a guitar with more than 6 strings Ok im done raving now
                                when he plays his universe
                                Say, I smell bacon.Does anyone else smell bacon?
                                Yeah, I definitely smell a pork product of some type.

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