What!

[MartyFriedmanIsMaster]

How come ESP gets to use the Firebird shape? They aren't even bought out by Gibson! But of course Jackson can't.

Explain?

[neilli]

Not sure ESP do get to use the Firebird shape now - I think the ESP 'birds are from the 80s and maybe early 90s...

[Grandturk]

Also remember, it's a gentleman's agreement between Fender and Gibson. Obviously it don't apply to ESP.

[eakinj]

Dunno, but if ESP starts putting birds out i'm buying one.

[straycat]

Nothing odd there ESP rips everybody designs.

[Mr.Shreddy]

Has ESP ever had an original design? -ever???

[MetalHeadMat]

The bird is the word.

The Firebird, SG, EX (Explorer), and the Les Paul are all shapes that are stolen fom Gibson, but not technically the shape. The point on the LP is sharper, the Phoenix (Firebird knock off) has a cut away, the EX is slanted and sharp, and the SG is kinda offset. I don't think legally they could do shit.

Also the SV shape, kinda a Rhoads, but the lower fin is a bit bigger.

[MartyFriedmanIsMaster]

The bird is the word.

The Firebird, SG, EX (Explorer), and the Les Paul are all shapes that are stolen fom Gibson, but not technically the shape. The point on the LP is sharper, the Phoenix (Firebird knock off) has a cut away, the EX is slanted and sharp, and the SG is kinda offset. I don't think legally they could do shit.

Also the SV shape, kinda a Rhoads, but the lower fin is a bit bigger.

That's stupid, Gibson "tried" to sue PRS for making a SINGLECUT guitar. Not a Les Paul design, but just a stinking singlecut guitar. And the ESP eclipse resembles the les paul exactly but sleeker. No lawsuit there.

[toejam]

The Firebird, SG, EX (Explorer), and the Les Paul are all shapes that are stolen fom Gibson, but not technically the shape.... the EX is slanted and sharp

ESP's EX shape was stolen from Charvel. Oz Fox from Stryper had a pointy Explorer like that in the '80s. Wayne Charvel now makes his signature model like that, too.

[Jacksonite]

Gibson can no longer stop ESP from selling the Pheonix in the USA.

so you will see the shapes are going to be available from now on....

"hint hint"

[Mr.Shreddy]

ESP needs to die anyways. All my friends at school want an ESP Rhoads knock-off...It's sad and kinda pathetic.