join me in my hatred for dean guitars?

[loki: god of chaos]

I don`t hate them ... I just don`t like them. I`m sure some of em play great but It`s the headstocks that really put me off!

i think the reason for the headstock is for tuning stability ie the stretched out v shape, i remember reading that somewhere.but idk

[Nimitz]

The amount of Dime guitars they are peddiling is really lame... I am glad I bought a Washburn Dime, the balance is way off and the pickups are junk other than it its pretty sweet, it's really sad that Dime was in between guitar manufacturers when he got killed... JACKSON should have made him a ML and the world would have been a better place for all Metal Heads!!!



You have to believe that Dime played on a Jackson or two in his life and you know didn't want to admit they kicked the crap out of those Deans.

[mccullpl]

IIRC, as soon as Dime was out of his Washburn contract, he went out and bought a couple Korean ML's with Floyds (as there were no USA production models with a trem), and played them live....so he must have really liked the Deans. He then worked with Dean designing the Razorback models, and died before they hit production. I have an older Korean ML select that plays fantastically, and a 2005 DOA V that is very nice too. I like gaudy guitars, so the headstock doesn't bother me in the least, but hey, I understand the look is not for everyone!

[Trussrod]

JACKSON should have made him a ML and the world would have been a better place for all Metal Heads!!!

IIRC Dime had a Jackson guitar with an ML body shape in the video of Pantera's performance in Moscow. This was in the early 90's.

I played a Dean Shadow ML and was impressed with the tone and playability. It doesn't matter to me how the business is run, etc. Am I missing something here?

[toejam]

IIRC Dime had a Jackson guitar with an ML body shape in the video of Pantera's performance in Moscow. This was in the early 90's.

Was that determined to be a Jackson? I thought it was rumored to possibly be an old Washburn, but not sure.
He did have a sweet blue Hamer ML copy made, too. And he was also photographed playing a couple Jacksons... I believe both RR5s, a black one and a white one.

[MetalHeadMat]

IIRC Dime had a Jackson guitar with an ML body shape in the video of Pantera's performance in Moscow. This was in the early 90's.

Was that determined to be a Jackson? I thought it was rumored to possibly be an old Washburn, but not sure.
He did have a sweet blue Hamer ML copy made, too. And he was also photographed playing a couple Jacksons... I believe both RR5s, a black one and a white one.

This was an ESP given to him by Kerry King and Jeff Hanneman of Slayer, (it was also in the video for Psycho Holiday).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTDj-I8LiXM

Also TJ, I've seen him with a Soloist, but I think it may be a fake picture... Also a black King V, B.C. Rich Ironbird, and BCR Custom "ML meets Washburn sig" shape.

[sully]

I have no love or hatred for Dean. Did any of you guys know that Dean was 2nd in line (behind Fender) when Jackson was bought? True story.

Chris, I don't get your reference to Jackson, Robbin, and Big Red, though; can you clarify? That guitar was not an official signature guitar and some of the things that were planned to happen with JCF 02 were not allowed because it would've become a signature series.

Sully

[MetalHeadMat]

I have no love or hatred for Dean. Did any of you guys know that Dean was 2nd in line (behind Fender) when Jackson was bought? True story.

Chris, I don't get your reference to Jackson, Robbin, and Big Red, though; can you clarify? That guitar was not an official signature guitar and some of the things that were planned to happen with JCF 02 were not allowed because it would've become a signature series.

Sully

Interesting, thanks for the info!

Also I was going to reply with that, but it didn't make much sense. Wasn't JCF-02 in cahoots with Robbin anyways? (I mean he approved of it)

[chrisolson]

IChris, I don't get your reference to Jackson, Robbin, and Big Red, though; can you clarify? That guitar was not an official signature guitar and some of the things that were planned to happen with JCF 02 were not allowed because it would've become a signature series.

Sully

Yep...I know.

My point was really to the effect that regardless of a company's intentions, ANY tribute (official or otherwise) is an honor to whomever it may be. To rag on Dean for doing Dime tributes, while looking past the Big Red or RR series, is kinda silly. Hell Zakk isn't even dead yet, and he has a bunch. AND I'M FINE WITH THAT! Who are we to say at the end of the day?

Sully, you know where I stand, and you know I would never say anything negative about that topic. There aren't too many people who were bigger fans on both a musical and personal level - beyond a few that we don't even have to mention.

[MetalHeadMat]

Yep...I know.

My point was really to the effect that regardless of a company's intentions, ANY tribute (official or otherwise) is an honor to whomever it may be. To rag on Dean for doing Dime tributes, while looking past the Big Red or RR series, is kinda silly. Hell Zakk isn't even dead yet, and he has a bunch. AND I'M FINE WITH THAT! Who are we to say at the end of the day?

Sully, you know where I stand, and you know I would never say anything negative about that topic. There aren't too many people who were bigger fans on both a musical and personal level - beyond a few that we don't even have to mention.

But it was this forum that did the tribute, not the company. The company built what was told of them. Right? :confused:

Also, I feel Dean does have the right to be ragged on. When have you ever seen Dime use a "Razorback 7 string" or the Red/White Razorback for that matter. How about the "Rusted Dime From Hell"? I don't care how many tributes they do for him, just as long as he uses them, if you know what I mean?

[chrisolson]

Guess what...I don't care! It doesn't bug me.

God I love teh intertubez... Real life just pales.

[Hellbat]

Life's too short to waste it on hatin'. Most of their stuff is not for me, the headstocks more than the body shapes. But thats just not Dean. Jackson will likely be my brand of guitar for the rest of my life. As far as the "signature" models, if Daryll Abbot's family wanted to stop all the Dime models I'm sure they would let it be known.

[sully]

Yep...I know.

My point was really to the effect that regardless of a company's intentions, ANY tribute (official or otherwise) is an honor to whomever it may be. To rag on Dean for doing Dime tributes, while looking past the Big Red or RR series, is kinda silly. Hell Zakk isn't even dead yet, and he has a bunch. AND I'M FINE WITH THAT! Who are we to say at the end of the day?

Sully, you know where I stand, and you know I would never say anything negative about that topic. There aren't too many people who were bigger fans on both a musical and personal level - beyond a few that we don't even have to mention.

Gotcha! Your post read a bit weird when I saw it. Then again, I was the one doing the reading...lol

[wilkinsi]

Who honestly cares about Dean Guitars? Not me.

[lerxstcat]

[QUOTE=Nimitz;1409312]The amount of Dime guitars they are peddiling is really lame... I am glad I bought a Washburn Dime, the balance is way off and the pickups are junk other than it its pretty sweet, it's really sad that Dime was in between guitar manufacturers when he got killed[QUOTE]

Dime wasn't between manufacturers. He signed with Dean and Krank just weeks before his death and made a video saying he always liked Deans the best. He only went with Washburn because they would make a copy of the Dean ML for him and because Dean was a dead company at the time he made it and could get endorsements. Granted Dean has overdone it, but Dime was more enthusiastic about Deans than Randy may even have been about his Jackson Rhoads guitar. I'd have to think that Dime wouldn't begrudge that.

Me personally, not real crazy about Deans but I don't hate them at all. They play pretty good from what I see in the store, but again, they don't make me want one. Power to those who do, they can get a base model for $299-$399. A friend bought a bottom-line Schenker V a few years ago and he liked it.