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  • #16
    Originally posted by Torment Leaves Scars View Post
    How'd you manage that? Did you beat the fuck outta him for ruining B.C. Rich, or was it for some other reason?
    I believe it was for the greater good of all mankind
    "There's nothing taking away from the pure masculinity I possess"

    -"You like Anime"

    "....crap!"

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Nightbat View Post
      I believe it was for the greater good of all mankind
      And for the greater good of B.C. Rich, too.

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      • #18
        BC Rich is actually putting out great imports now. I am impressed by their current line up. Great stuff!
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Frigo89 View Post
          BC Rich is actually putting out great imports now. I am impressed by their current line up. Great stuff!
          You clearly haven't played a Trace Warbeast.

          Every single Trace Warbeast I've come in contact with has been nothing short of horrendous. I can understand issues with one or two, but when I've encountered the same issues on guitars from various stores, I have to start questioning things.

          The biggest issues I've run into have been VERY SHARP frets, and this goes for EVERY SINGLE ONE I've ever been in contact with. I'm disappointed, because I think they look really cool, and I'd really like to own one, but I just can't overlook such flaws.

          I can deal with the stripes on them being a bit "fuzzy" at the outlines, but razor-sharp frets? No. Regardless of the season, it didn't matter. And then, there was the sound, which was not going to set the world afire anytime soon...

          Every company makes some good guitars and bad guitars, so I can give'em a pass on this one, because I have played a few of their neck-through Mockingbirds and a neck-through Eagle, and they were both pretty nice, especially for their prices of around $600-$700. The finish looked great, the hardware looked and worked flawlessly, etc.

          I can't recall the neck-through series of Eagle that I played, but I certainly wouldn't mind owning one...

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          • #20
            RacerX, the man you kicked in the ASS had nothing to do with class axe, those were claims he made that were not true in anyway.

            TLS, class axe did not run BCRich into the ground; BCRich did that to themselves in the late 80's trying to keep up w the jones and follow into the superstrat/bolton market Class. Yes class axe made it even worse, but BCRich during that era was nothing more than a name and some guitars whose shapes were kinda cool even tho they weren't exactly the same as the originals. Even after 95 when the Rico's took control back of BCR the guitars were never the same, and never will be especially since they cant even get the OLD shapes right.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by j2379 View Post
              RacerX, the man you kicked in the ASS had nothing to do with class axe, those were claims he made that were not true in anyway.

              TLS, class axe did not run BCRich into the ground; BCRich did that to themselves in the late 80's trying to keep up w the jones and follow into the superstrat/bolton market Class. Yes class axe made it even worse, but BCRich during that era was nothing more than a name and some guitars whose shapes were kinda cool even tho they weren't exactly the same as the originals. Even after 95 when the Rico's took control back of BCR the guitars were never the same, and never will be especially since they cant even get the OLD shapes right.
              Umm, isn't it Class Axe that implemented the use of layers of woods for the bodies?

              And whadda ya mean they cant get the old shapes right? They all look right to me... :think:

              I wanna hear more about the ass-kicking incident.

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              • #22
                Umm, isn't it Class Axe that implemented the use of layers of woods for the bodies? nope

                And whadda ya mean they cant get the old shapes right? They all look right to me... minor changes and the use of the kahler template for NON kahler'd Bich.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Torment Leaves Scars View Post
                  You clearly haven't played a Trace Warbeast.

                  Every single Trace Warbeast I've come in contact with has been nothing short of horrendous. I can understand issues with one or two, but when I've encountered the same issues on guitars from various stores, I have to start questioning things.

                  The biggest issues I've run into have been VERY SHARP frets, and this goes for EVERY SINGLE ONE I've ever been in contact with. I'm disappointed, because I think they look really cool, and I'd really like to own one, but I just can't overlook such flaws.

                  I can deal with the stripes on them being a bit "fuzzy" at the outlines, but razor-sharp frets? No. Regardless of the season, it didn't matter. And then, there was the sound, which was not going to set the world afire anytime soon...

                  Every company makes some good guitars and bad guitars, so I can give'em a pass on this one, because I have played a few of their neck-through Mockingbirds and a neck-through Eagle, and they were both pretty nice, especially for their prices of around $600-$700. The finish looked great, the hardware looked and worked flawlessly, etc.

                  I can't recall the neck-through series of Eagle that I played, but I certainly wouldn't mind owning one...
                  lmfao, nope never played a Trace Warbeast. I don't think I would want to, not a crazy shape guy
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by j2379 View Post
                    Umm, isn't it Class Axe that implemented the use of layers of woods for the bodies? nope

                    And whadda ya mean they cant get the old shapes right? They all look right to me... minor changes and the use of the kahler template for NON kahler'd Bich.
                    From what I've seen on B.C. Rich's site, all of their guitars are using Floyds, not Kahlers.

                    Originally posted by Frigo89 View Post
                    lmfao, nope never played a Trace Warbeast. I don't think I would want to, not a crazy shape guy
                    I can tell you firsthand that you're not missing much...

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                    • #25
                      The new imports are very well made. Swap out some cheaper pots and pickups and you have a great guitar. I have a couple Mockingbirds
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                      shawnlutz.com

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Shawn Lutz View Post
                        The new imports are very well made. Swap out some cheaper pots and pickups and you have a great guitar. I have a couple Mockingbirds
                        [ATTACH=CONFIG]2271[/ATTACH]
                        Love the red one. Which series is that from? That's not an ST, is it? The reason I ask, is because I've heard that STs don't stay in tune for shit with use of the tremolo. Disappointing, because I wanted one until I started asking around out them and numerous people who'd either owned them or played them commented on that.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Shawn Lutz View Post
                          The new imports are very well made. Swap out some cheaper pots and pickups and you have a great guitar. I have a couple Mockingbirds
                          [ATTACH=CONFIG]2271[/ATTACH]
                          They're still made out of "Chinese mystery wood that's like maple and mahogany" and the tops are paper-thin veneers. They're too expensive for Chinese guitars to me; especially when you get one the priority is to spend a few hundred more replacing the electrics.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Sephiroth View Post
                            They're still made out of "Chinese mystery wood that's like maple and mahogany" and the tops are paper-thin veneers. They're too expensive for Chinese guitars to me; especially when you get one the priority is to spend a few hundred more replacing the electrics.
                            B.C. Rich lists the specs for each guitar under their "Specifications" section. They list what's used. There is no mystery. It's right there, clear as day.

                            IMO, all guitars are too expensive to just start swapping parts on. By the time you swap out all the parts, you could've upgraded through 1 or 2 model lines of the same guitar.

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                            • #29
                              I used to have a PX-3 (i think that was the model) and it was truly a great guitar. It was right up there with my SL2H and would sustain like crazy. It was neck-thru and had Rockfield Mafia pups in it. Ebony board and the wood was listed as NATO i think. I sold it so I'm not sure how well it would have stood the test of time, but for around 600.00 brand new I was SHOCKED that a Korean guitar could feel and sound so good.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by guitarzan_josh View Post
                                I used to have a PX-3 (i think that was the model) and it was truly a great guitar. It was right up there with my SL2H and would sustain like crazy. It was neck-thru and had Rockfield Mafia pups in it. Ebony board and the wood was listed as NATO i think. I sold it so I'm not sure how well it would have stood the test of time, but for around 600.00 brand new I was SHOCKED that a Korean guitar could feel and sound so good.
                                Sounds like me with my new JS32 Warrior. I'm amazed a "Made In India" guitar plays as well as it does. I had to double-check it on the back of the headstock when I was at the store prior to buying it.

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