can anyone tell me what BC rich this is?

[tomanyjacksons]

Great, now I'm gonna be up until 2 or 3 in the morning droolling over more guitar porn. LOL. Thanks for the posting the link. B C Rich has made some awesome guitars over the years!

First off, http://www.bcrichplayers.com/board/index.php is a great B.C. Rich forum. My second favourite forum to the JCF.

Second, it's a B.C. Rich Outlaw "Black Hole." Essentially an ST-III body with holes drilled into it from the factory.

http://www.dudewithstuff.com/kevins_website2_2007_165.htm

Also here's a great B.C. Rich History page for anybody that needs it. Has all the shapes, a bunch of really good pictures, and a lot of catalog scans:

http://www.dudewithstuff.com/kevins_...2_2007_191.htm

[kez]

Wow! Thanks Mat! that wasn't the forum page I had been directed to through a search. Anyway, that is good to know these were actually produced... I was thinking it was a home-made drill job (albeit a good one) with a Rich neck and plate slapped on it. thanks for the info! BTW it plays beautifully! What years were these made? Judging from the day glow paint on this one, I'd say mid 80's... height of the hair/glam metal movement?

[kez]

it actually plays beautifully and has near-perfect intonation.

[Axewielder]

Wow! Thanks Mat! that wasn't the forum page I had been directed to through a search. Anyway, that is good to know these were actually produced... I was thinking it was a home-made drill job (albeit a good one) with a Rich neck and plate slapped on it. thanks for the info! BTW it plays beautifully! What years were these made? Judging from the day glow paint on this one, I'd say mid 80's... height of the hair/glam metal movement?

Well like I said, the paint looks suspicious. Maybe it is factory, maybe it isnt. Most of those had trems, so if it was converted to a TOM it would have had some body work and a refin done.

[MetalHeadMat]

Great, now I'm gonna be up until 2 or 3 in the morning droolling over more guitar porn. LOL. Thanks for the posting the link. B C Rich has made some awesome guitars over the years!

When I found this site I saved 95% of the pictures on there Not a problem!

Wow! Thanks Mat! that wasn't the forum page I had been directed to through a search. Anyway, that is good to know these were actually produced... I was thinking it was a home-made drill job (albeit a good one) with a Rich neck and plate slapped on it. thanks for the info! BTW it plays beautifully! What years were these made? Judging from the day glow paint on this one, I'd say mid 80's... height of the hair/glam metal movement?

No problem! I know the pain and patience of researching old B.C. Rich's. If I were you, I'd post full pics on that forum link I sent you. If it's an actual B.C. Rich it might've been custom shop, but if it's a bolt on then it's nearly impossible to tell since B.C. Rich weren't good at keeping track of those A lot of things point it to being fake, like the extra holes, risqué graphic, (say EVH and you're sued ), bridge, string ferrule placement and the Strat jack to accustom the extra holes... But again, could be a custom shop if it was done at the right time.

Edit: By the way, if it turns out it is a home built one with a B.C. Rich neck/plate slapped on, and it plays good, then that's a win in my book.

[j2379]

yep an Outlaw, heavily mod'd. & the dudewithstuff website isnt 100% accurate. there more than a few fakes on his site, and some of the info is false. There is a lot of bad/false info floating around about BCRichs, personally i think its a real modd'd BCR. if your going to fake a BCRich, you wouldn't fake an outlaw. get pic of the back of the neck & rear of the headstock. Its easier to date BCR boltons from the neck carve and body routes than the neck plates. as BCR boltons progressed they changed the routes slightly, its the only real way to pin point which era it was made in.

[kez]

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Thanks for all the input peeps! pure or mutt??? Any ideas? either way, it plays beautifully!

[xenophobe]

I'd say modded and refin, but definitely legit... but I know little about BC Rich... But that paint job looks pro.

[Ward]

From those pics it looks like the headstock doesn't match the body (headstock looks like yellow, body looks like green), is that just the lighting in the pics?

No logo makes me think refin too.

[tomanyjacksons]

Overspray right by the neckplate 2, right next to each another. On my local CL there is a LTD or Schecter I cant remember which that had or so it says in the add a Floyd setup and was converted to a Gibson style Tune-o-matic. My only question is why????

[kez]

yes, the head is purple and yellow, while the body is purple and green... think this was done purposefully during the finishing as the purple is the same as is the design... Don't see signs of it ever being cut/filled so I'm thinking it was never a trem model. The neck has that "hand made in U.S.A." on the back... is that something Rich did at one time?

[straycat]

The serial number on the headstock does not match the neck plate.
Some BCR's had that hand made sticker.Never saw that hand made sticker on a bolt on BCR.
If the truss rod cover is metal it may be a pre class axe BCR neck. I don't think the paint is original on the headstock.

[kez]

yeah, I noticed they are not the same #, but I remember having a USA made Charvel in the early 80's whose plate # did not match the # written (in black sharpie) on butt of the neck where it joined the body... so I did not know if it was steadfast that neck# must match plate #?

[j2379]

the neck is from a different era than the body. the body is newer by a few years, the neck plate may actually be an import since its chrome not black. the neck is from prior to "production" boltons, i have a very early ST-3 from the era and the serial# and handmade sticker is correct for the era. if i had to guess that neck had a kahler lock on it at one time as most of those BCR did. can you see any seems where they may have filled a trem route on the body. I don't remember any US outlaws without a trem, that doesnt mean they dont exist, as thats about the time i didn't pay much attn to BCR as they were turning into cookie cutter garbage. BTW it wouldnt surprise me if that headstock had a rosewood veneer under the paint. hows it play, those early necks are killer, far better than production st-3/slinger necks IMO.

[dvscool]

Not sure what it is but its ugin fugly....wow....sorry...