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  • 5150 Kit Build

    I thought I would share my recent project with the group. I was looking around at guitar kits and I stumbled on a 5150 kit at Guitar parts online. I had just finished the refinish on my Pacer special and was ready to take the next step and build a kit guitar. While this kit was not the cheapest one out there, it has turned out to be better quality than some others. I'm pretty sure the parts are made in china.
    The Kit: 5150 kit made by Dragonfire
    Price: $199 plus shipping. About $224
    source: http://www.guitarpartsonline.com/
    Parts: Maple neck with Maple fret board, Basswood body, Lic. Floyd Rose style trem, chrome hardware, everything else you need to complete a working guitar except the tools.
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    Both the neck and body came basically ready for a finish. The body had a few rough spots has a single coat of sealer on it.
    The Neck: The finish on the neck was beautiful and the frets were all nice and level. The only down side to this neck was the nut shelf. it was no where near the right height for the nut so there were some measurements that had to be made and I carefully removed the wood using sand paper and a file so not to mar the fret board.
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    Once the nut shelf was set, it was time to drill some holes. I marked where the holes should be for the nut and truss cover...
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    ...and lined up the tuners to get those locations marked.
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    There was one other slight issue with the neck. the rounded corner of the neck heel didn't match the corner of the neck pocket. So, I cut out a 3"X5" index card in the shape I needed for the corner and marked the neck. In the pic I've already done one side. it was as simple as working a piece of sandpaper back and forth to round the corner.
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    I don't know if you can see the number "1" stamped on that neck heel but this is part of my safeguard for the future. Since I intend to put a Kramer logo on it I stamped the neck with a "1" and the inside the neck pocket and pup cavity with a "2" for ID purposes. this along with a build thread on the Kramer Forum will help prevent anyone from representing this as more than a replica of a Kramer. Of course in it's hayday Kramer imported parts from over seas, put them together in their factory in NJ and marked them as Made in the USA. So except for some cheap hardware it's almost the same! LOL
    NOTE: The pup you saw in the pic IS NOT what comes with the Kit. I worked with a buddy of mine to round up a DMT Time Capsule Zebra.

    The Body:
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    I've never really worked with Basswood before but I can tell you its kinda heavy. The body is a single piece of wood with all the routes pre-made. The edges of the routes are pretty clean with a few splinters here and there. Nothing you can't use an exacto knife to trim out.
    There were a few blemishes but nothing major. I use a wood and vinyl filler putty from Home Depot. I use a painting stick to bolt the body to making moving the body around easier. it also lets me hold the guitar at different angles to get all the corners. I masked off the neck pocket and The first step is a good primer coat. I like to put several coats of primer on before I wet sand the first time with 400 grit wet/dry sand paper. Once all the blemishes are smoothed out and the surface is completely smooth. Since the guitar will have a black base coat it's really important the surface be flawless.
    Once the body is ready I start the base coat. Now I'm using rattle cans which takes a lot of time and depending on what type of paint it is can take a long time to cure. You basically keep applying light coats of paint allowing each to dry in between. I start out with the goal of applying the entire can but it can take up to 1 1/2 so I go ahead and buy two just in case something tragic happens.
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    Once the base coat is filling in I let the body dry for at least 8 hours and then lightly wet sand with 2000 grit. this is just to knock off any little dust particles, slight runs, or anything else keeping the body from being smooth. then back to the base coat. I'll repeat the wet sanding every other coat so the paint stays smooth.
    While waiting between coats I masked off the frets and sprayed the neck with clear gloss lacquer.
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    If you couldn't tell, I'm not copying the classic 5150 stripes and color. Nothing against Eddie but I've never been much of a fanboy and I firmly believe you can't make a name for yourself if your promoting someone elses name. Anyway, with that in mind I knew what I wanted and how I was gonna get it.

    Body, head Decal set Customized Tiger
    Price: $85 after shipping
    Source: Inzane Decals http://www.inzanedecals.com/index.html
    Materials: Front decal for the body, head decal with Kramer 3D logo.

    When the decal set came in from Inzane I started with the head.
    instructions for how to apply the decal are on the site and they send you a pdf file which goes into more detail.
    Needless to say I couldn't exactly take pics while working with the decals. I figured you just wanted to see the end result anyway.
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    Now more clear lacquer and assemble the neck components.
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    The body is a little more involved.
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    Just for kicks I figured I would break up all that black on the back with a piece of extra decal left over.
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    Turn the volume to 10 and rip off the knob!

    Currently Shredding:
    2007 Jackson DK2M
    1983 Kramer Pacer Special
    2013 Kramer 5150 Kit
    2000ish RR Knockoff refinish.



  • #2
    Before getting into clear coating I wanted to go ahead and drill the holes for the neck screws and make sure everything lined up. it would also be the first time I've had the neck on the body since I first pieced it together. I started with a single corner, ran the high and low e strings to make sure the neck is mounted straight, marked the holes and drilled away. I used a bit that was smaller because I wanted the screws to do most of the cutting into the wood. in theory the holes should last for years to come.
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    Turn the volume to 10 and rip off the knob!

    Currently Shredding:
    2007 Jackson DK2M
    1983 Kramer Pacer Special
    2013 Kramer 5150 Kit
    2000ish RR Knockoff refinish.


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    • #3
      That looks pretty sweet

      how does the decal look in person?
      Jackson KV2
      Jackson KE1T
      Jackson KE1F
      Jackson SL1

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      • #4
        Looks great!
        Can't argue with the price either.

        I'm an ampaholic.
        I opened this thinking I was going to see a wild amp build!

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        • #5
          Smoking Pall Mall... you cheap ass.

          What pickup are you going with?
          sigpic
          Action Jackson

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          • #6
            I'm using a DMT Time Capsule
            Turn the volume to 10 and rip off the knob!

            Currently Shredding:
            2007 Jackson DK2M
            1983 Kramer Pacer Special
            2013 Kramer 5150 Kit
            2000ish RR Knockoff refinish.


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            • #7
              That kicks all kinds of ass! Love the tiger motif. Very appropriate for an 80's shredder.

              I did a similar project but more of a mod/refin to a beat BC Rich Mockingbird. Paint was rattle can and I masked off the areas around the black stripes with airbrush frisket film and hit that last before clear coating it. Came our pretty good all things considered. Only problem was: I didn't really like how the guitar felt or played. Baseball bat neck, neck dive and tone sucking characteristics.

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              • #8
                Larz, The decal is really nice looking. not pixelated or cheap looking. Very professional print job. it's a nice grade of vinyl. Trust me, I'm a cheap bastard and if it was poor quality for that price I would have sent it back. Inzane really puts out a nice product.

                Vector, man, that is one pretty kitty. I would have changed the neck or something. that paint job screams shredder!

                After getting the neck holes drilled and test fitting everything it was clear coat time. for the body I used Minwax clear gloss polyurethane. it's heavier than lacquer and will hold up better against the wear and tear a guitar body goes through. I sprayed at least a can and a half before I was happy with the finish. every other coat I would allow it to cure for several hours and then wet sand with 2000 grit.
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                After the final wet sanding I pulled out the buffer and started with turtle wax brand polish followed by some scratch x. You can see from the pic the mirror finish it will produce after several minutes of polishing.
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                with the clear coat finished it's time to assemble, wire and set it up with strings.
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                It's taken about a month to complete this build. after giving it a good set up I took it for a test drive. the neck is super playable maybe just a touch thinner than the old Kramer esp necks. it stays in tune really well and I've got the action dialed in pretty low with no fret buzz at all. This kit worked out so well I've got my eye on the DK2M kit. it the neck profile matches the actual DK That could be a real winner too.
                The coolest part about the decals is you don't have to clear coat them. That means you can just apply it straight onto a guitar without messing with the rest of the finish. With out the decal the build would have come in a little under $250. The parts are on par with Jacksons made in Japan and I can't complain about the build quality.LOL
                For the money to have a guitar built in the USA and custom finish you just can't beat it. Now I'm gonna catch up on some of the sleep i've lost while working on this.
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                Turn the volume to 10 and rip off the knob!

                Currently Shredding:
                2007 Jackson DK2M
                1983 Kramer Pacer Special
                2013 Kramer 5150 Kit
                2000ish RR Knockoff refinish.


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                • #9
                  Looks good nice job.
                  I have one made form that same kit it came out really well.Mine has the top mount floyd.
                  The necks are really nice.
                  The small hole for the volume pot is kind of a pain.Why they didn't route it out bigger IDK.
                  Mine has the Ernie Ball truss rod adjustment at the heel.

                  Last edited by straycat; 03-26-2013, 10:23 AM.
                  Really? well screw Mark Twain.

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                  • #10
                    That's a cool looking guitar. I think the advantage to kits is the ability to have a custom guitar for a fraction of the price.
                    Turn the volume to 10 and rip off the knob!

                    Currently Shredding:
                    2007 Jackson DK2M
                    1983 Kramer Pacer Special
                    2013 Kramer 5150 Kit
                    2000ish RR Knockoff refinish.


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                    • #11
                      Great Job!!! I need to get off my ass and finish my projects.

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                      • #12
                        DonP- I send mine out to professionals now so, I guess I gotta get on their asses about finishing those up

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                        • #13
                          I leave the paint to the pros nowadays too.
                          Mine has the Gotoh tuners and trem,DiMarzio super "D".
                          Last edited by straycat; 03-26-2013, 10:26 AM.
                          Really? well screw Mark Twain.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by vector View Post
                            DonP- I send mine out to professionals now so, I guess I gotta get on their asses about finishing those up
                            Between this one and my Pacer refinish I'm becoming a pro. hehe If I decide to keep it up I may have to spring for a good spray setup.
                            Turn the volume to 10 and rip off the knob!

                            Currently Shredding:
                            2007 Jackson DK2M
                            1983 Kramer Pacer Special
                            2013 Kramer 5150 Kit
                            2000ish RR Knockoff refinish.


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                            • #15
                              Might as well make a few bucks painting guitars LOL.
                              Where is Oliver Springs? I know I have seen the sign for that town in my travels thru Tn.
                              Really? well screw Mark Twain.

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