Bc Rich -- identification

[Nightbat]

Yeah fair enough, I just don't see how it could not be considered neck thru given that the neck is laminated and does extend all the way through the body, just in a different plane to a 3-piece

Not for everyone I guess, but as to inferior/superior, to me they are just different

Well the thing still remains, that in Jackson construction the body has more impact to the tone since it is more than just 2 pieces of wings glued on, with Jacksons, a 1-piece body is possible
and in a 'true' neckthrough, once it's been routed for a trem, there's not much left of the neck beyond the neck p'up anyway

So yeah different
The construction of Jackson is neckthrough, no doubt about that, but as finished product it ends up a set neck hybrid

[pianoguyy]

BCR recently made a Warlock that looked neck thru with the neck thru heel carve they typically do but it was actually a set neck sculpted to look like a neck thru.

The one I was looking at was a trans finish. So if you follow the grain, it really looked like it was neck thru. And face it, it is a NJ Neck-Thru Series.
Which is far different than my Charvel which was a set neck with smooth heal, but you can see the different grains through the trans finish, or my Schecter which is set thru with smooth heal and is completely painted.

[Venomboy]

BCR recently made a Warlock that looked neck thru with the neck thru heel carve they typically do but it was actually a set neck sculpted to look like a neck thru. It was all black, and GC and MF sold them. I bought one but got rid of it. Not bad, but was neck heavy. I don't know if they built others with a set neck like this. But all the specs were clear that it was set neck.

[ralph]

Since the component that is considered the neck runs the entire length and depth of the body, No
But it's funny that contrary to your opinion of a neck thru you do know what defines a multi-piece neck
why aren't you calling it a single piece neck?

Yeah fair enough, I just don't see how it could not be considered neck thru given that the neck is laminated and does extend all the way through the body, just in a different plane to a 3-piece

Not for everyone I guess, but as to inferior/superior, to me they are just different

[pianoguyy]

the only part of the neck in the body that would be a separate piece would be the piece behind the tremolo

Ya know, I never thought about tremolos. I guess, using that logic, none of my neck thru are actual neck thru's because the trems cut it off from going the entire length.

See, I am ok with trems cutting it off and still calling it a neck thru.
I just feel a little slighted when it is a top piece instead of the entire piece. I am old fashioned, I want wings glued to the sides, not a slat glued into a groove.
But I actually prefer bolt ons anyhow.

[Nightbat]

Does this mean that a 3 piece neck is also "not a true neck-fru geetar" since it is 3 pieces of wood glued together?

Since the component that is considered the neck runs the entire length and depth of the body, No
But it's funny that contrary to your opinion of a neck thru you do know what defines a multi-piece neck
why aren't you calling it a single piece neck?

[ralph]

It is hilarious that it can be considered "not a true neck-fru geetar" if the neck is laminated as per the way many of the Jackson USA production models are made

Does this mean that a 3 piece neck is also "not a true neck-fru geetar" since it is 3 pieces of wood glued together?

Love it or hate it, its still a neck thru guitar, just a different way of doing it

[Nightbat]

Newer Jackson neck-thru models go the entire length of the body.
But, they are only the upper half of the body. And then, because they are only the top half, once you reach the nearest pickup to the fingerboard, it is essentially cut off from the rest of the neck thru. Which is sort of like a set thru.

Exactly


if Jackson were a true Neck Thru, the only part of the neck in the body that would be a separate piece would be the piece behind the tremolo (routed to drop in the trem)
but Jackson necks end at the first pick up the way they construct them, so not even stoptails or string thru's 'benefit' from the perceived advantages of a NT
Then again, (unless neck and body the same wood) the bodies of Jackson have more impact on the tone since there is more material left, whereas true NT's are just 2 pieces of wings glued on
(in an RR that would be almost minimal)

I heard there are a few manufacturers who make set in necks that go deeper into the body, beyond the first P'up cavity

[pianoguyy]

I have one, as for specs not sure what you want to know. I seem to recall different models having different specs.
Mine has 24 fret ebony board with diamonds (moto i beleive), licensed floyd and bc rich branded pups. It looks better than it plays, the neck is painted and kinda chunky, certainly chunkier than I like.

At the minute its cased and away upstairs but can get you any clearer pics/details if you need any.

At this point, I am not interested in it.
A 1982 B.C. Rich (as advertised), ok I am interested. But I am really not looking for a modern Warlock made in Korea.

[pianoguyy]

Like Jackson neck thru's

I don't know when Jackson changed, but even their necks go a lot farther down the body than the neck pickup cavity.

Newer Jackson neck-thru models go the entire length of the body.
But, they are only the upper half of the body. And then, because they are only the top half, once you reach the nearest pickup to the fingerboard, it is essentially cut off from the rest of the neck thru. Which is sort of like a set thru.

[Schadenfreude]

I have one, as for specs not sure what you want to know. I seem to recall different models having different specs.
Mine has 24 fret ebony board with diamonds (moto i beleive), licensed floyd and bc rich branded pups. It looks better than it plays, the neck is painted and kinda chunky, certainly chunkier than I like.

At the minute its cased and away upstairs but can get you any clearer pics/details if you need any.

[toejam]

Like Jackson neck thru's

I don't know when Jackson changed, but even their necks go a lot farther down the body than the neck pickup cavity.

[Nightbat]

but the neck is set into only about the neck pickup cavity.

Like Jackson neck thru's

[toejam]

But I have seen others calling them a set neck. Why name it 'neck-thru' if it is a damn set neck.

Some people don't know the difference. There are some manufacturers, like Schecter, who make a set-thru... it's got the shaved neck heel that's smoothed down like a neck-thru, but the neck is set into only about the neck pickup cavity.

[j2379]

If it's the model I think they were pretty good. Pickups and hardware was kind of crap but that's an easy fix.