what about these les pauls?

[ApeDosMil]

the first one looks nice. it's pretty beat up, but i really don't care as long as the neck isn't messed up or something

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...category=47072

what would be the max you would pay for this?


a nice ibanez(i think)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...category=33043

[ApeDosMil]

Re: what about these les pauls?

what does this mean?

Small piece of the nut broke off but it did not affect the setup of the insturment and doesn't need replacing. for the tokai les paul

[sully]

Re: what about these les pauls?

why not just find a decent epiphone? you can find tons of them, and they're really not bad.

sully

[ApeDosMil]

Re: what about these les pauls?

ehh... i don't want a epiphone, i want something nice [img]images/icons/tongue.gif[/img] and i want it to be setneck.

[Number Of The Priest]

Re: what about these les pauls?

If I remember correctly, an Epiphone Les Paul does have set-neck construction. And there are Epiphones out there that look a lot more appealing to me than Gibsons when talking about the cool transparent tops (wish the ladies wore transparent tops [img]graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] ) in colors not normally offered on Gibsons.

[ApeDosMil]

Re: what about these les pauls?

eh they make set necks

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...category=33037

this one seems nice, but i get this shitty feeling towards epiphones.

[Number Of The Priest]

Re: what about these les pauls?

Why do you feel that way towards Epiphones? You hated Fenders until you tried one... so try an Epiphone and it might impress you. You never know until you try.

[ApeDosMil]

Re: what about these les pauls?

i probably would. [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

there are no epiphones around here though.

[Newc]

Re: what about these les pauls?

I tried a 2000 or '01 Epi LP Standard back when they were new (was supposed to have been some new design revision - can't recall now), and thought it played ok (set neck, etc), but it coulda been better. The neck felt "stiff" and it seemed thin and weak acoustically.
Throw some EMGs in it, though, and it'll sound like anything else with EMGs in it [img]graemlins/poke.gif[/img]

Newc

[zeegler]

Re: what about these les pauls?

I'm sorta looking for an LP copy myself. I cant justify spending the bucks on a real one, when I'm actually going to play it, and put some serious wear and tear on it. I've been browsing the Burnys, Grecos, Tokais, Arias, and Ibanezes. The Epis aren't bad either, but you can't get one with the proper shaped headstock. All of the others made copies with Gibson style headstocks at some time or another, and that's what I want. I just like the shape of the Gibby headstock better than the Epi headstock. Oh, and the Heritage headstock is just plain [img]graemlins/puke.gif[/img] .

[sully]

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i'm with ya on the epi headstock, it's a shame they don't use the gibson one, but no big deal.

as far as their tops go, i'm as sure as i can be that mine is a photo. i can tell b/c it overlaps over the body binding in the neck joint area... kinda hard to describe without a picture, but the way i look at it is that i paid $300 for a honeyburst standard. i did do some work on it, but for what it is, it serves its purpose.

sully

[Boxcar Willie 84]

Re: what about these les pauls?

Most of the Epiphones I've played are real nice...aside from what I call a dry fretboard or two. If they're good enough for Lars' main guitar, they're good enough for me!!

[k65h]

Re: what about these les pauls?

One thing when looking for a LP Replica, is how close to the original, in materials, it comes.
From my experience, the Japan replicas very close.
Tokai
Burny/Fernandes
Orville/Orville by Gibson
Edwards/Navigator/ESP
Greco
Diodati
Epiphone Japan
Epiphone elite/elitist
Aria Pro

Majority of these will have
2 piece mahogany body
1 piece mahogany neck
1/2" maple cap. Some with figured veneers over the maple cap.
Indian rosewood fretboard.
Pearl inlays
Body/neck binding.
Gotoh electronics, hardware, and pickups. (may vary, with grover or gibson parts instead).
Poly Urethane or Acrylic Lacquer finishes depending on model level.
Bone or Tusq nut.

Most Japan and euro market models will have porper headstock and horn shape. Canada/USA market models may have altered looks.

Usually sell between $600 to $1000 depending on model, year, and features. Sometimes, you do see a few going for under $600. Like the Burny,greco's, edwards. Tokai and Orville usually fetch a higher price. Mainly because thier more known. Most are made in the same Japan factories.
Hamamatsu (Tokai, Diodati) or Fugi Gen(Orville, burny, aria,etc..) .


Most of the Korean models I've seen have the look, but not the proper materials.
Like:
Alder 1/2" tops instead of Maple.(some even hollow under the top veneer)
Alder bodies instead of Mahogany.
Maple necks instead of Mahogany.
Altered looks (Horn, headstock, control layout).
Plastic nuts instead of graphite, tusq, or bone.
Korean or Chinese electronics and hardware instead of Japan(Gotoh) or American (Gibson).

The Japan replicas are very, very well made.
And again, seem much closer in materials than most Korean or China made models.

Also, keep an eye out for
Dean EVO Deluxe/Premium (Czech made)
Fernandes Ravelle Deluxe/Elite (China Made)

They are more modernized takes on the classic lp design. But, have features true to the LP.as well as very nice specs.
Mahogany neck/Body.
Carved 1/2" maple tops.
Real Duncan pickups.
Etc..
Usually can be found for $600 + or - new or used.

Another thought.
Heritage H150.
Hamer USA studio.
you can find great used deals on these. Usually around or sometimes under a $1000.

Kent

[toejam]

Re: what about these les pauls?

I've been thinking of maybe eventually getting an Epiphone Custom. I love the Gibson Les Paul Custom, but I can't justify the high price for the real thing. Though, the Epiphone has a carved alder top on a mahogany body instead of maple and, of course, the hardware and electronics might be not as good, but it still seems like they're a decent price.

[It's All In My H3ad]

Re: what about these les pauls?

I'd go with an Epiphone Les Paul Custom, like Toejam said. I'm going to start saving up to buy one of those. A friend of mine has one and it plays just as nicely as my Gibson Les Paul Classic.