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**pro-fusion** · 06-13-2004, 05:55 PM

Re: Yet another 7 string post...

Originally posted by Emperor Nakoo Hiryuu:
I absolutely love my RG7620...aside from the pickups, which are weak as hell. I'm thinking of swapping 'em out for an Evolution 7 and an Air Norton 7...

Also consider the Blaze Custom for the bridge--it's a hotter/less scooped version of the regular Blaze that reminds me a lot of a 7-string Super Distortionin my basswood-bodied Schecter V-7. I've heard good things about the Evolution 7, as well.

**pro-fusion** · 06-13-2004, 06:00 PM

Re: Yet another 7 string post...

It's funny, I didn't really like 7-strings until recently. I had an early Ibanez Universe years ago, and I traded it in at a big loss because the low-B seemed unnecessary to the way I played at the time. Also, I didn't care for the feel of the wide neck that much. But I had been tuning my 6-strings down a lot in the last couple of years, so I figured that I might try a 7-string again. And now, I hardly pick up my 6-string Soloist anymore, which is a great guitar. I almost feel lost without the low-B string nowadays.

I'll probably set my Soloist down to 1.5 steps down tuning, which is nice for writing material that uses lots of open-string chords and such--creates something different than you can do on a 7-string.

**diablomozart** · 06-13-2004, 06:15 PM

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i'll let you know about the evo 7 pretty soon...i'm having to order one in green for my uni...d.m.

**eaeolian** · 06-14-2004, 01:39 PM

Re: Yet another 7 string post...

Originally posted by pro-fusion:
That Carvin went BIN this time. It's been listed several times, I believe. I think the maple board held it back--heck, if it had ebony, I would have snagged it on one of its earlier listings. I'm thinking of getting a Carvin, but I'm just not that fond of the Carvin tone anymore--they tend to be somewhat trebly/bright sounding. You can hear that on Tony MacAlpine's recent 7-string work with his Carvins.

But I may still give one a try, anyway. I suspect lots of mahogany in a Carvin (like the one on eBay) would help eliminate the bright sound.

Yeah, I was thinking they might be a little bright, especially with ebony. The maple/mahogany should do the trick - nice and warm, with some bite.

You could always order an all-mahogany one. [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

Mike

**toejam** · 06-14-2004, 03:58 PM

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[quote]Originally posted by Demon:

And you know what? I don't mind the stock DiMarzio Blaze pickups at all. It just kills me when a guitar comes with good DiMarzios - not the crap such as the NEW-7's that came in the RG 7620

While I've not played the Blaze pups, I thought the New 7s on my old RG 7620 were very good. I've read some reviews from quite a few people who thought they were better than the Blaze. I guess it's all personal opinion, though.

**toejam** · 06-14-2004, 04:03 PM

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Originally posted by Michael:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by pro-fusion:
That Carvin went BIN this time. It's been listed several times, I believe. I think the maple board held it back--heck, if it had ebony, I would have snagged it on one of its earlier listings. I'm thinking of getting a Carvin, but I'm just not that fond of the Carvin tone anymore--they tend to be somewhat trebly/bright sounding. You can hear that on Tony MacAlpine's recent 7-string work with his Carvins.

But I may still give one a try, anyway. I suspect lots of mahogany in a Carvin (like the one on eBay) would help eliminate the bright sound.

Yeah, I was thinking they might be a little bright, especially with ebony. The maple/mahogany should do the trick - nice and warm, with some bite.

You could always order an all-mahogany one. [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

Mike <hr /></blockquote>I plan on ordering an all mahogany DC727 eventually. It will have a maple board, too. [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] I prefer the feel of Carvin's maple boards over ebony for some reason. My SC90 has maple, and I love it. The DC400 and DC120 12-string I had were ebony and, while they were sweet players, I preferred the maple.

**eaeolian** · 06-15-2004, 08:27 AM

Re: Yet another 7 string post...

Originally posted by pro-fusion:
It's funny, I didn't really like 7-strings until recently. I had an early Ibanez Universe years ago, and I traded it in at a big loss because the low-B seemed unnecessary to the way I played at the time. Also, I didn't care for the feel of the wide neck that much. But I had been tuning my 6-strings down a lot in the last couple of years, so I figured that I might try a 7-string again. And now, I hardly pick up my 6-string Soloist anymore, which is a great guitar. I almost feel lost without the low-B string nowadays.

I'll probably set my Soloist down to 1.5 steps down tuning, which is nice for writing material that uses lots of open-string chords and such--creates something different than you can do on a 7-string.

Mr. Crooks always teases me about the fact that I said "I don't ever see myself playing 7 string full-time", and now I won't buy anything with 7 strings on it.

Now that my "adjustment period" is over, I pretty much can switch up whenever I want to. I used to think my friend Marcel Conen was a superior being because he could switch at will. (He's still a superior being, as far as playing goes, but that's not why. [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] ) It's still a different instrument, though - for example, I find that dropped-D sounds MUCH better on a six-string. Dunno why, something about the harmonics.

**pro-fusion** · 06-15-2004, 11:59 AM

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Originally posted by Michael:
Now that my "adjustment period" is over, I pretty much can switch up whenever I want to. I used to think my friend Marcel Conen was a superior being because he could switch at will. (He's still a superior being, as far as playing goes, but that's not why. [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] ) It's still a different instrument, though - for example, I find that dropped-D sounds MUCH better on a six-string. Dunno why, something about the harmonics.

Same with "Iommi tuning" (or C#/1.5 steps down). I suppose you could tune a 7-string down that far, but I can't imagine the low-B being very useful tuned down to G#. Also, if the bassist tuned down to match, his low-B (can't remember what it is in bass clef) would probably just create an indecipherable rumble tuned down that far!

I may get an ESP H-307 or MH-307 to try out the EMG pickups. I don't want to carve up another guitar to put them in. Actually, an MH-307 with a trem replacement to the new 7-string original Floyd would probably be a pretty cool machine!

**toejam** · 06-15-2004, 01:07 PM

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I think Jeff Loomis tunes his guitars down a half-step, both the 6-strings and 7-strings, and his sound is pretty disctinct. [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

[ June 15, 2004, 01:13 PM: Message edited by: toejam ]

**eaeolian** · 06-15-2004, 02:19 PM

Re: Yet another 7 string post...

Originally posted by toejam:
I think Jeff Loomis tunes his guitars down a half-step, both the 6-strings and 7-strings, and his sound is pretty disctinct. [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

We actually tune down a half step, too - 10s or 11s are pretty good in that tuning. If you dropped the Bb to Ab, though, it gets mushy - REAL fast.

Maybe if you use 12s or something.

Besides, EVERYTHING Loomis does is distinct. [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

Mike

**toejam** · 06-15-2004, 05:13 PM

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Good point! Hail Jeff Loomis!! [img]graemlins/notworthy.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/headbang.gif[/img]

**eaeolian** · 06-16-2004, 12:13 AM

Re: Yet another 7 string post...

Originally posted by pro-fusion:
Same with "Iommi tuning" (or C#/1.5 steps down). I suppose you could tune a 7-string down that far, but I can't imagine the low-B being very useful tuned down to G#. Also, if the bassist tuned down to match, his low-B (can't remember what it is in bass clef) would probably just create an indecipherable rumble tuned down that far!

Actually, there are som bands that use dropped-Bb tuning, like KoRn, although "indistinct" is the term that comes to mind. A bassist would have to be using bridge cable for anything to come out tuned that low, though. [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

Originally posted by pro-fusion:

I may get an ESP H-307 or MH-307 to try out the EMG pickups. I don't want to carve up another guitar to put them in. Actually, an MH-307 with a trem replacement to the new 7-string original Floyd would probably be a pretty cool machine!

I thought exactly the same thing - replace the Floyd and pickups, and that's a pretty cool guitar. They go for more money than I've seen most of the USA 7s go for on evilBay, though - how insane is that?

Of course, you could just buy the LTD SC-607 - the non-Baritone Stephen Carpenter. No Floyd, but EMG 81-7 pickups...

Mike

**Mordor** · 06-16-2004, 05:19 AM

Re: Yet another 7 string post...

All these topics about 7 strings and schecter made me want badly an omen 7!Damn you [img]graemlins/images/icons/tongue.gif[/img]
I should have to buy it without playin it first though [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img]

**eaeolian** · 06-16-2004, 07:34 AM

Re: Yet another 7 string post...

Originally posted by Mordor:
All these topics about 7 strings and schecter made me want badly an omen 7!Damn you [img]graemlins/images/icons/tongue.gif[/img]
I should have to buy it without playin it first though [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img]

eBay, my friend. The Omens go REAL cheap. [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

Mike

**Mordor** · 06-16-2004, 08:24 AM

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Unfortunately no Omen 7 avalaible for Italy on Ebay [img]images/icons/frown.gif[/img]

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