Kramer explorer?

[straycat]

Did kramer make a bolt on neck explorer?This one has the bananna (slight tilt back)headstock 22 frets(rosewood).Neck looks old and worn and the logo fits in the USA 84 thru 85 catagory.The body is 2 hum with a TOM and stop tail piece.All the hardware is well worn so its had the shit played out of it.All the ones I see on the net have floyds or vintage trems.So did they ever make any with these specs?Even if its a mutt its a very cool guitar.BTW the body is alder and the neck looks like the older ESP made kramer necks.I'm guessing this to be a ESP made kramer.I don't have any pics so any of you kramer guys help me out here. [img]graemlins/help.gif[/img]

[Newc]

Re: Kramer explorer?

I believe they did (as in, I recall seeing one yeeeeears ago), but you know how Gibson loves to sue people [img]graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Newc

[Manyaxes]

Re: Kramer explorer?

It is called "the Condor"! [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

[straycat]

Re: Kramer explorer?

Wasn't the condor model more like a pointy star?I used to have several kramers (USA)and never have seen an explorer body shaped one.I'm sure its a jap or korean built guitar but it is just cool as hell and I want it.The neck looks like an old baretta neck. Logo is no doubt an 84-85 usa but you know how logos find their way on import necks.No big deal really just trying to shed a little light on this piece.

[Manyaxes]

Re: Kramer explorer?

They made a real pointy looking star and a regular star, the Condor is like an explorer but just a little pointy. If it's exactly like a Gibson looking body then I would love to see pics and I don't believe it to be a Kramer body. Especially with that bridge setup.

[fuel0707]

Re: Kramer explorer?

You might try poking around on this site: Vintage Kramer

I haven't looked through it for an Explorer-style body, but there might have been one.

[straycat]

Re: Kramer explorer?

The bridge set up is what makes me think its something else entirely.Body is dead on a gibson explorer knob placement and rear routing just its a bolt on.The headstock is a bananna kind big like some barettas, slight tilt back maple with a rosewood board 22 fret.This is just a body and neck no hardware but the acoustic tone and sustain is very good.I'm thinking a super D or duncan distortion in this thing and an R&S pot kit and this guitar would kick some major ass.I think the neck is legit Kramer either ESP or Kramer USA just can't tell.The neck feels a lot like an 80s nightswan I had wide and flat.

[Newc]

Re: Kramer explorer?

Could be a Warmoth Explorer body - they're great at duplicating bodies.
Could also be a Warmoth neck [img]graemlins/scratchhead.gif[/img]

Newc

[straycat]

Re: Kramer explorer?

Could be.I've got to buy it, bring it home and tear it apart.Its such a cool piece.

[ChickenScratch]

Re: Kramer explorer?

I don't knbow if they used to do an Explorer but they do now. First time I saw one was at an Overkill show where their rhythm player had one with EMGs in there.

Have a look: http://www.musicyo.com/product_specs.asp?pf_id=498
seems they only have the lefty version in stock though.

[straycat]

Re: Kramer explorer?

Thats close except for the knob placement and 22 fret neck.

[straycat]

Re: Kramer explorer?

Upon closer inspection this appeares to be a mutt.It was a 2 hum body like on music yo's web site the neck pocket has been opened into the front pickup routing and the neck used to be a 24 fret cut down to 22.Scale length is 25in.Intonation is right on the money.There is an explorer type pickguard cut for the bridge hum only.Not bad work whoever did it.

[BigDaddyD]

Re: Kramer explorer?

They definitely did. My friend had a Kramer explorer with Floyd and 2 hums back in the day.