7 Strings

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Carvin DC727
Carvin DC747
Ibanez RG7620
Ibanez RG7621
Schecter A-7
Ibanez Universe

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The 007 Elite and Blackjack C-7 are both still in production, aren't they? I almost bought a 007 Elite - they've nice guitars.

Mike

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I forgot about the 007 Elite--that's a pretty nice looking instrument. I'm not sure whether the 7-string Blackjack is being produced anymore. That's a long-scale instrument, right?

[Drake S.]

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Personally I'm useing an RR7 that I'm having modded with a Jackson low pro 7 floyd bridge & 2 EMG 707s. It plays pretty good the neck is semi thin. I get a good tone out of it also, plus I love Vs.

[eaeolian]

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I forgot about the 007 Elite--that's a pretty nice looking instrument.

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It's a pretty nice playing instrument, too. If the Washburn didn't happen along, I was going to pick up one as my spare 7 string.

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I'm not sure whether the 7-string Blackjack is being produced anymore. That's a long-scale instrument, right?

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Yeah, 26 1/2, with real Seymours and a TonePros bridge, for $599, I think. According to the Schecter site, it's still in production, and MF has them for sale.

I'd like to play one to hear the difference the scale makes, but GC wants me to buy one first. Now that really makes sense...

This seems like the best deal of anything we've talked about, just because it's a maple set neck with mahogany body, and real pickups. (Duncan Designs, um, SUCK.) I wonder how much difference the long scale makes?

Mike

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I have a friend who has two ESP LTD 7 strings (a H-207 and a H-307) and having played them myself I just don't think that they are worth anymore than $250 for the 207 and $350 for the 307. They both feel like low end guitars that just aren't solid. Their necks are just bulky and slow (in my opinion). The electronics needed to be rewired / soldered because both guitars arrived with incorrect wiring and terrible tone. The guitar also doesn't stay in tune worth a damn. The 207 sounds better to me (with the duncan design pickups) and the 307 sounds way too muddy with EMGHZs.

What makes matters worse is that he has a Jackson WR-1 and he NEVER PLAYS IT! He spent close to $2000 on it too!

[eaeolian]

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I have a friend who has two ESP LTD 7 strings (a H-207 and a H-307) and having played them myself I just don't think that they are worth anymore than $250 for the 207 and $350 for the 307. They both feel like low end guitars that just aren't solid. Their necks are just bulky and slow (in my opinion). The electronics needed to be rewired / soldered because both guitars arrived with incorrect wiring and terrible tone. The guitar also doesn't stay in tune worth a damn. The 207 sounds better to me (with the duncan design pickups) and the 307 sounds way too muddy with EMGHZs.

What makes matters worse is that he has a Jackson WR-1 and he NEVER PLAYS IT! He spent close to $2000 on it too!

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Well, the 207 essentially IS a low end guitar - mid-range, at best. Mine has a couple of dodgy frets on it, but the only Korean 7s I've played that didn't were the higher end Schecters and the Brian Moore i9.7 - which is hard to find, and a little pricey, but very good. I will say that I've never played an Ibanez with any fret problems, but I'm usually playing the high dollar ones, anyway, so...

I like my 207 OK, but then again I only paid $200 for it. Mine stays in tune about as well as anything with the crappy LTD hardware does.

The 307s that I've played were OK, but not really any better in the build quality department than the 207 - they're just neck-thru.

As for the neck being bulky, let me ask you a question - do you play 7 string normally? If not, it will feel that way at first, and feel very, very slow. The LTD neck is not Ibanez-thin, but it is much thinner than the Jackson DX-7 I had.

As for why he doesn't play the WR-1? He's got seven sting fever. After swearing I'd never play seven string full time, I rarely play my six strings anymore.

Mike

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I like my 207 OK, but then again I only paid $200 for it. Mine stays in tune about as well as anything with the crappy LTD hardware does.

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He paid $450 for his 207 and $800 for his 307... Ouch [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

You're probably right about the neck size, but it just seems to me that it should be a little bit thinner especially considering that the 6 string H's usually have very nice necks.

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The recent high prices on the neckthru LTD-7s have scared me off from them. I simply won't pay $600 for a used Korean neckthru.

As far as the neck thickness goes, I think that having a really thin 7-string neck could lead to lots of truss rod adjustments and potential warping, unless the neck is laminated or reinforced. The thinner Ibanez 7-string necks have the bubinga strip for reinforcement, and the quite thin Conklin necks are 5-piece laminated maple/purpleheart.

In any event, really thin 7-string necks feel weird to me--they don't seem to fit my hand right for some reason. And I'm a guy who favors relatively thin 6-string necks.

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He paid $450 for his 207 and $800 for his 307... Ouch [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

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No doubt! You could get a new Carvin DC727 for around $800--a far nicer guitar than the LTD, even if the neck is pretty wide.

[eaeolian]

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The recent high prices on the neckthru LTD-7s have scared me off from them. I simply won't pay $600 for a used Korean neckthru.


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Me niether. I've seen the MH307s going for more than a new Schecter 007! Now, it does have a Floyd, but c'mon...

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As far as the neck thickness goes, I think that having a really thin 7-string neck could lead to lots of truss rod adjustments and potential warping, unless the neck is laminated or reinforced. The thinner Ibanez 7-string necks have the bubinga strip for reinforcement, and the quite thin Conklin necks are 5-piece laminated maple/purpleheart.

In any event, really thin 7-string necks feel weird to me--they don't seem to fit my hand right for some reason. And I'm a guy who favors relatively thin 6-string necks.

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I'd agree with that - I have the super-thin Jackson '80s bolt on neck on my '88 Dinky, and I love it, but the Ibanez 7 string necks seem too thin - like they don't put your thumb in the right spot to handle the extra width.

Mike

[yard dawg]

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My jackson 7 with EMG 707 sound pretty good...The neck is like a log though but you get used to it..the string spacing is close too...dont like that

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I'd agree with that - I have the super-thin Jackson '80s bolt on neck on my '88 Dinky, and I love it, but the Ibanez 7 string necks seem too thin - like they don't put your thumb in the right spot to handle the extra width.

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I don't think that the 7620 has a very thin neck--but supposedly the 7420 does. The Conklin seems much thinner than any Ibanez I've played, but then it's been awhile since I've played an Ibanez 7-string. I might have a different perspective now.

[pro-fusion]

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My jackson 7 with EMG 707 sound pretty good...The neck is like a log though but you get used to it..the string spacing is close too...dont like that

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I don't think that the Japanese Jackson 7-string neck is much, if any, thicker than the ESP or Schecter 7-strings, but probably more so than the Ibanez guitars. String spacing is almost always narrower on 7-strings, in order to keep the neck from getting too wide. I think the Carvins are the only 7-strings that have retained their regular string spacing. The narrow spacing does take time to get used to--and it certainly increases the accuracy of your fingering hand!!

[White]

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You Could probably find a Ibanez Universe for less than $1000.

I played the hardtail RG7321, and its really a very nice guitar. and its only about $300

[kruneh]

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Would appreciate some info on RR7. There`s one on ebay right now, but as usual he don`t ship to Norway.
Is this kind of a seven string version of the RR3? I`d love to have one anyway, but they seems hard to find. Very limited or what?