Geo Fuller???

[charveljunkie]

Anybody ever heard of this luthier???
I have a guitar by this maker and it is killer
Just looking for some info?
Thanks

[VulfgangPfuck]

Re: Geo Fuller???

George Fuller was Leo Fender's right-hand man.
He is also the "G" in G&L (George and Leo).
They started the Music Man company together in the 70's and later G&L

[Mr Graphic]

Re: Geo Fuller???

Actually, it was George Fullerton who worked with Leo Fender.

[charveljunkie]

Re: Geo Fuller???

Could Geo Fuller be short for George Fullerton? [img]/images/graemlins/scratchhead.gif[/img]

[Jim Shine]

Re: Geo Fuller???

BWAHAHAHA! That is funny! I bet it is a take on George's name.

To clear something up, it was Forrest White that started Music Man with Leo. After a third party involved screwed everything up, Leo left and started G&L with George. The same tooling was used to make the G&L's, which is why the late Music Man and early G&L's look so similar.

After a few years Leo aquired the majority of G&L stock and made it HIS company (George likes to say he 'retired' on a doctors reccommendation). At that point it became "Guitars By Leo".

to be fair, Leo was only partially involved in Music Man. After his contract with CBS ran out and he left Fender he opened CLF Research, which was a nice name for his R&D lab. CLF Research made Music Man guitars (Leo was still a major owner of Music Man, so when things fell apart and the company was sold, the building and tools all stayed. This is likely why Charvel was building some of the early Ernie Ball/Music Man instruments. It was likely a period of time before Ernie Ball was able to get a factory tooled up up and running for these guitars and basses, but still needed to sell product.

[j2379]

Re: Geo Fuller???

that thing looks like warmoth parts to me.

[VulfgangPfuck]

Re: Geo Fuller???

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BWAHAHAHA! That is funny! I bet it is a take on George's name.

To clear something up, it was Forrest White that started Music Man with Leo. After a third party involved screwed everything up, Leo left and started G&L with George. The same tooling was used to make the G&L's, which is why the late Music Man and early G&L's look so similar.

After a few years Leo aquired the majority of G&L stock and made it HIS company (George likes to say he 'retired' on a doctors reccommendation). At that point it became "Guitars By Leo".

to be fair, Leo was only partially involved in Music Man. After his contract with CBS ran out and he left Fender he opened CLF Research, which was a nice name for his R&D lab. CLF Research made Music Man guitars (Leo was still a major owner of Music Man, so when things fell apart and the company was sold, the building and tools all stayed. This is likely why Charvel was building some of the early Ernie Ball/Music Man instruments. It was likely a period of time before Ernie Ball was able to get a factory tooled up up and running for these guitars and basses, but still needed to sell product.

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I thought something sounded wrong about who started MusicMan after I had mentioned it...Oh well. [img]/images/graemlins/scratchhead.gif[/img]

[Jim Shine]

Re: Geo Fuller???

Yeah, it is all confusing. Lots of drama and twists in the story it gets all jumbled up.

another aspect that can make things hard to figure out is while Leo was starting the CLF Research/Music Man thing, George was working for Ernie Ball/Earthwood line of acoustics, so it is just a huge clusterfuk.

[Jimi D]

Re: Geo Fuller???

Do you have any more pics of that guitar? Looks cool! I'd love to see some more!!

[charveljunkie]

Re: Geo Fuller???

Jimi D,
Here you go

[dg]

Re: Geo Fuller???

Any idea on the year it was made? It is so similar to EVH/Axis Musicman design. Just curious.

[charveljunkie]

Re: Geo Fuller???

dg,
Not shure it has been awhile
the guy I got it from had it made when the musicman first came out???but he wanted a custom one off-he told me he paid $1500.00 for it