Eclipse II bodies vs. les paul body

[PoisonGodmachine]

i was looking around at some esp's today an i came agross the Eclipse II now unlike the ec 1000 this thing appears to have a much larger body... its got two tone's and 2 volumes. Is this body any different then a les paul in size and comfort. what are the Prices like on these eclipse II, if its not to much i might have to snag one if i get the chance. let me know what you think

[Lordofgain]

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I am not sure about size relating to bodies etc. I have a 57' RI Goldtop Paul that I love. I am going to get an EC-1000 LTD. in May w/JB-59 in amberburst.
Mainly I am getting it because of the locking tuners and the Earvana compensated nut which I don't think that the Eclipses have the Earvana nut on them.
Will let you know differences when I get it.

[AfterForever]

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I think Eclipses are larger but a little bit smaller..
I prefer them to les pauls, they feel more comfortable to me

[neilli]

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I have both an Eclipse and a 2002 LP with a 60's neck. Without going into too much detail, the Eclipse is thinner and much lighter than a Les Paul and it also has a belly contour at the back. IMO the neck on mine does not feel like a Les Paul at all.

Basically, I was describing the ESP to the brother of a friend last night and the best I could come up with is that it looks like a modern take on a Les Paul but plays like a non trem superstrat....

[Chuckracer]

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I think Eclipses are larger but a little bit smaller..


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Bravo!! Well Said! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[Firebird V]

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[VulfgangPfuck]

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[Number Of The Priest]

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it looks like a modern take on a Les Paul but plays like a non trem superstrat....

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That's a very good description of it right there. WarriorX7 recommended ESP Eclipses to me for that reason since I wasn't diehard about owning a true Gibson Les Paul, and I only wanted some sort of singlecut shape.

True, the Eclipse is thinner than the Les Paul. They also sound remarkably different, I am told.

And the LTD EC-1000 Deluxe is a 24-fret smaller bodied singlecut style. To me, it doesn't even look much like a Les Paul due to the obvious size difference. But man, surprisingly the LTD EC-1000 Deluxe is a WONDERFUL guitar to play.

[PoisonGodmachine]

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i know the ec-1000 is alot smaller ive seen them. but Im wondering about these Eclipse II guitars...you guys follow? Check out drumcityguitarland and youll see what i mean...they look like les pauls.... i read on a review that the Eclipse II are made in japan but set up in the Esp custom shop...that sounds good to me... Remember Eclipse II NOT Ec-1000

[Lordofgain]

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i know the ec-1000 is alot smaller ive seen them. but Im wondering about these Eclipse II guitars...you guys follow? Check out drumcityguitarland and youll see what i mean...they look like les pauls.... i read on a review that the Eclipse II are made in japan but set up in the Esp custom shop...that sounds good to me... Remember Eclipse II NOT Ec-1000

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Am I missing something? Isn't the ESP custom in Japan also? Are they seperate facilities?

[Lordofgain]

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BTW PoisonGod,
I also was looking at the Eclipse II's but I won't justify the price ESP wants from their custom shop.

[Number Of The Priest]

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Send a private message to JCF member Shawn and he will give you the hookup on Eclipse IIs.

[Lordofgain]

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Send a private message to JCF member Shawn and he will give you the hookup on Eclipse IIs.

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Thanks for lookout Priest although I don't know if Shawn can help me as I am a lefty but I will pm or email him!

[Number Of The Priest]

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Oh crap! I have no idea whether Shawn's source has left handed models or not. Better check with him anyways. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

From ESPguitars.com:

Question: Are all ESP / LTD models available in left-hand versions?
Answer: Any ESP custom shop model can be ordered in left-handed - there will be an additional charge of 15% for these orders. Only a few standard ESP / LTD models are available in left-handed versions. Please contact the ESP Sales Dept. for L/H model availability.

[toejam]

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i know the ec-1000 is alot smaller ive seen them. but Im wondering about these Eclipse II guitars...you guys follow? Check out drumcityguitarland and youll see what i mean...they look like les pauls.... i read on a review that the Eclipse II are made in japan but set up in the Esp custom shop...that sounds good to me... Remember Eclipse II NOT Ec-1000

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Am I missing something? Isn't the ESP custom in Japan also? Are they seperate facilities?

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They have a separate custom shop in California. At one time they had a shop on 48th Street in New York, but I believe that's gone.