I have discovered the most comfortable neck ever..

[Thor Von Clemson]

In the form of the George Lynch Baritone guitar with the tribal finish. My little bro has one and I was noodling around on it... I must say it is the most comfortable neck i have ever played. The problem is the body and bridge are terrible. I need something with a floyd. Can anyone point me in the direction of a guitar with a neck similar to the one I mentioned with a floyd and a non goofy esp body shape?? (It would be a huge bonus if it was a Jackson)

[dinkyjacksonman]

Re: I have discovered the most comfortable neck ever..

Maybe you should check out other Lynch models?

[ChickenScratch]

Re: I have discovered the most comfortable neck ev

Is it because of the neck shape of the longer scale why it's more comfortable for you? Both are things you should consider. If it's the neck shape you can easily trace the neck shape and get one made for one of your beater guitars, if it's the scale of the thing you might try other baritones.

[Thor Von Clemson]

Re: I have discovered the most comfortable neck ev

I think it is more the scale than the shape. I dont feel like I have to reach way the heck out there to fret the first frets and my wrist doesn't hurt as much as it does when I play the other guitars. I think that could also be counter intuitive... aren't baritone guitars supposed to have a longer scale than regular guitars? [img]/images/graemlins/scratchhead.gif[/img] I think what attracts me the most is I can keep everything square, the frets are closer together, and I do not have to do as much reaching as I do when I play my rr. Maybe a SLS would work?

[Number Of The Priest]

Re: I have discovered the most comfortable neck ev

You just threw us a curveball with your reply above. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] Let me explain...

In your first post way above, you sound like you're talking about the guitar's neck backshape, or perhaps the scale, or the fretboard radius, that contribute to extreme comfort for your fretting hand. It sounds like something about the neck is so good to play.

Then in your second post, you're talking about reaching for the first frets in a superstrat guitar (the Lynch) versus a pointy guitar with no cutaway horns (the Rhoads). I know where your problem is here.

My first electric was a superstrat style. My second was a Jackson KE3. The two guitars differ in the location of the strap pins. Notice in a superstrat, the horn strap pin hangs at around the 12th fret. The way the guitar hangs on you, the fretboard will be RIGHT-shifted, and the first few frets will be easier to reach. Compare this to a pointy, like my KE3 or your RR, and that same strap pin is located somewhere near the neckplate, which is close to the end of the fretboard. The way the guitar hangs on you, the fretboard will be LEFT-shifted and will be further away.

I actually prefer the pointy shape. It makes soloing on the high frets MUCH easier since it's a little further away from me. I had to adjust to soloing on my Soloist because the high frets were so close to the centerline of my body that my wrist was bent in a weird way. Contrast this to when I solo on my KE3, where the high frets are more in line with my left shoulder and so my wrist can be kept straight and relaxed. That's my theory for why I've noticed double cutaway players play their guitars like this, me included, away from their bodies for more comfort:

[dinkyjacksonman]

Re: I have discovered the most comfortable neck ev

and now you have to post that Adrian Smith pic and confusing!
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[Number Of The Priest]

Re: I have discovered the most comfortable neck ev

I've found that I've always posted that Adrian picture every time I need to illustrate my fretboard reaching theory. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] I have to move my Soloist away from me when I play the high frets, but my old Kelly sits perfectly and my left hand is comfortable. My Les Paul is somewhere in between but I don't need to do the Adrian thing to get better comfort. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[dinkyjacksonman]

Re: I have discovered the most comfortable neck ev

That is interesting to know.
I had teh same problem with KV.
When I play the high frets, I have to hold it at certain angle to play but plays nicely at lower position somehow.
Dinky shape with 22frets, I never had this problem.
It plays perfectly bth high and low frets.

I think Gibson 22frets guitars play the best.
I don't remember if Dean Schenker V has shorter scale or regular scale..
I can't wait to get mine.

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[Number Of The Priest]

Re: I have discovered the most comfortable neck ev

Wow Toru, you're experiencing exactly the opposite of what Gold Moon Soloist and myself experience when considering guitars when the strap pin at the neck heel. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] Mileage definitely varies here! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

My theory is this. The more the strap pins are situated towards the butt of the guitar, the harder it will be to reach the low frets and headstock, but the easier it will be to reach the high frets for soloing. My example was my Kelly. And the more the strap pins are situated towards the headstock, the easier it will be to reach the low frets and headstock, but the harder it will be to reach the high frets for soloing, like on my superstrats, so I have to do the Adrian thing. I just feel so crammed playing the high frets... a Soloist is definitely not my definition of a "soloist".

Mileage may vary! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[dinkyjacksonman]

Re: I have discovered the most comfortable neck ev

OK, I have a solution for your problem with your Shannon.

Why don't you install a strap pin by the back body,right behind of around 19th fret?
I had a Soloist that had a Strap pin hole somewhere there so I know someone tried the same thing and it probably worked.
This way, it will probably play like your Kelly
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[toejam]

Re: I have discovered the most comfortable neck ev

I noticed on the old Warrior MG I used to have (now Newc's Halford Warrior [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]) that I was reaching more to the left and had a harder time playing on the lower frets while standing. Sitting was no problem. I never noticed that problem with my Kelly, but ultimately I feel more comfortable on a Strat, Dinky or Les Paul.

[Number Of The Priest]

Re: I have discovered the most comfortable neck ev

I know nothing about drilling holes, and I'm a little paranoid to do that on such an otherwise nice guitar which I may plan to sell in the distant future. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] Next thing you know, the next owner would complain that the Soloist nosedives like a Kelly and is neck-heavy... [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[Thor Von Clemson]

Re: I have discovered the most comfortable neck ev

I did notice it is easier to reach the higher frets on the rr. Sounds like the problem lies with the location of the strap pins. I will noodle around with the position of the strap to see if it makes a difference. I guess to me, the lynch just felt like a "smaller" guitar, which to me made it more comfortable. However I found it was difficult to fret around the 12 fret and higher.

[DonP]

Re: I have discovered the most comfortable neck ev

NOTP,

Very interesting. I never thought about that strap pin locations, but I'll be paying more attention to them in the future.

I have LP's and SG's, and when sitting down, the place where they balance on the leg causes an SG to be shifted left, the LP is shifted right. And it does make a difference just like you said, getting to the higher frets.

[Thor Von Clemson]

Re: I have discovered the most comfortable neck ev

hmm.. I think I understand this concept of guitars shifting to the left or right... So is there a guitar that does not shift to either direction?