schecter guitars

[Fragle]

a band we're good friends with got a schecter endorsement deal. as i'm looking for a new guitar (and don't want to go esp - my lead guitar player is endorsed by esp) i was thinking maybe i should look at these.
so, basically, i know NOTHING about schecter guitars. i wonder if you guys could be so kind and tell me the basic things about them....what's the good ones, what should i stay away from, etc.
i'm looking for a soloist/dinky shaped guitar (so basically strat shaped), 2 humbuckers, 3 way switch, 24 frets, preferably a see through color, no dot inlays. either fixed bridge or floyd rose style tremolo, but if a floating trem, then a good one. i hate guitars with cheap ass trem systems.

and of course, are they any good in general, or are they all crap except for the usa custom shop ones?

thanks in advance

[DSS3]

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I fucking love them! You're describing any of the C-1 series!

They kick tons of ass, are cheap, and play and sound orgasmic.

Put it this way; I sold my RR-1 for a C-7 Hellraiser.

[pro-fusion]

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The C-1 Hellraiser exactly fits your specifications. If you can live with a 5-way switch, also consider the C-1 Blackjack. I have a C-7 Blackjack and love it. The Schecter Diamond Series (especially the higher-end ones like the Blackjack and Hellraiser) are nice guitars and absolutely incredible value for the dollar. They do not play or sound cheap at all. Are they nicer than a USA Schecter or USA Jackson. Well, no, but then they are also about a 1/4 of the price of a USA guitar.

[toejam]

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The Schecter Diamond Series (especially the higher-end ones like the Blackjack and Hellraiser) are nice guitars and absolutely incredible value for the dollar. They do not play or sound cheap at all.

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+1. I've got a 007 Elite and couldn't be happier with it. [img]/images/graemlins/headbang.gif[/img]
BTW, from what I've heard, the Schecters are made in the same factory as the ESP/LTD line (Samick factory?). The LTDs aren't bad, but I prefer the Schecters.

[RacerX]

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They are made in Korea, but are very quality axes for the price.

[Davey]

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MIK, but the QC or assembly is made in california AFAIK

and i want a DamienFR HAHA

i just LOVE those bat inlays [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

fragle, if you find them over there in dschormanie, LMK cos i cant get any over here and i'd like to test a couple when i go visit zerb (if we have time that is lol)

[Fragle]

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alright, thanks a lot.
i was looking at the schecter hp and picked out a couple of models that seem to fit the bill.
the c1 hellraiser looks killer, but also is like the most expensive one the have [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] the blackjack would be an alternative, but i hate the dot inlays...
the c1 FR also looks great, but i'm not sure if i want another floyd rose loaded guitar...how is the schecter floyd rose system? the HP says it's an original FR, so it should be pretty good, huh?
other than that, the damien 6 also peaked my interest....the damien FR has a lower quality tremolo, right?

btw, the omes series seems to be similar to jackson's x series, as it appears to be their beginner's line. the german (the only german schecter dealer, i might add *cough* ) schecter dealer has the omen 6 in stock for 299 euro. how's the build quality of those guitars? hardware can always be replaced, but crappy craftmanship is and will always be crappy. i figured that replacing the tuners and pickups on an omen 6 could turn it into a decent (backup) guitar, or am i wrong?

igorin: sure, i'll let you know. keep in mind that zerberus is located pretty much on the other side of germany, though [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[Niccolai]

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Shecter and ESP are owned by the same company.

I prefer the ESP MH line for a few reasons:
-Neck construction options. most/all of the schecters are setneck
-EMGs, Most of the shecters have duncan designed pickups.
-controll layout. Many shecters have two volumes... I hate two volumes.
-ESP has done a better job of honoring thier waranties with me than schetcer has.



Shecter are high quality guitars and all, but I wouldn't dismiss ESP.

[toejam]

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Shecter and ESP are owned by the same company.


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No, they are not owned by the same company. The imports are made in the same Korean factory (Samick factory, I believe), but that's about it.

[YetAnotherOne]

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-EMGs, Most of the shecters have duncan designed pickups.


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The better Schecter imports are S/D not Duncan Designed. One thing that Schecter really does right on their better imports is not skimping on hardware. The quality pups, bridge, & tuners Schecter uses can make a world of difference in that price range.

[ApeDosMil]

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Are the Scheters with DD pickups made in China or Korea?

[veliyasin]

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Shecter and ESP are owned by the same company.


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No, they are not owned by the same company. The imports are made in the same Korean factory (Samick factory, I believe), but that's about it.

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They are owned by the same company actually.

But they do have different managements etc.

[Deneb]

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Great guitars, and if you're a decent band, playing out (even unsigned) you should be able to get a deal.

[Chrisb]

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-EMGs, Most of the shecters have duncan designed pickups.
-controll layout. Many shecters have two volumes... I hate two volumes.


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Err...Schecter uses EMG on most of their nicer imports, just like ESP.
And not all Schecters have 2 volumes, alot of them don't actually. Alot of schecters have tapped coils on the tone/volume knobs too which is a very cool thing IMO, and far as I know ESP doesn't do that.
ESP are sometimes set thru neck's which is not a neck thru and is little more than a set neck that extends further into the body. The other ESP are set neck, just like Schecter.

The warranty thing I can understand and thats an individual thing.

ESP aren't bad, but I've found the workmanship to be hit and miss on their imports (bad fretwork mostly). But that can happen with any import guitar but I think Schecter has better QC than ESP.

[Fragle]

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whats the difference between neck thru and set neck? i always thought it was the same [img]/images/graemlins/scratchhead.gif[/img]

"Great guitars, and if you're a decent band, playing out (even unsigned) you should be able to get a deal. "
well, my band has 3 full lenght albums out, the second one being released by nuclear blast. after all thats why my lead guitar player (he and the drummer wrote all the songs) was able to get an ESP endorsement.
i however didn't record (or play on any album for that matter) anything with them (yet), so an endorsement deal is a bit out of my league [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] even though we're playing out a lot and are signed [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
i was just thinking that this other band (i'm talking about illdisposed by the way) already has a deal, and normally it should be possible to order one guitar through them.
they're also endorsed by line 6, by the way, as that's what they're using live - sounds pretty good actually, and VERY reliable.