Eric Johnson Strat owners...

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Just curious... how the heck does he elimated the 60hz hum when using single coil pickups and high gain amps. Even with a noise gate.. you can still hear the 60hz hum between notes. I have heard him many times live and he is totally hum free.

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Last time I saw EJ live his strat's hum was incredibly loud. He dicked with it for 40 minutes thus pushing the start of the show back. He ended up not using it all that night. He played an SG the entire time.

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And there you have it!!! When I saw him he was using a strat with an HS-2 in the bridge because its a hum free pickup. He wired it so the second (stacked) coil was a dummy load that just eliminated the hum. It will be interesting to find out the design of the official EJ single coil pickups! I find true single coil pickups virtually unuseable under high gain conditions whether I am in the studio or live.

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"It will be interesting to find out the design of the official EJ single coil pickups!"

Huh? Like I already said, the Fender EJ pickups are single coils!

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"It will be interesting to find out the design of the official EJ single coil pickups!"

Huh? Like I already said, the Fender EJ pickups are single coils!

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Yea.. I know, but are they noiseless?

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A noisless single coil is not a single coil...

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"He wired it so the second (stacked) coil was a dummy load that just eliminated the hum."

That's the first I ever heard that. I have read he used it in single coil mode (I assume that means tapped). In order to use the other coil as a dummy you would need to take the magnets out of the "dummied" coil. That might not be possible if I am remembering the HS-3 I had years ago correctly.

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A noisless single coil is not a single coil...

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Techically... no, because there is a dummy coil stacked under the single that is actually working.
BUT!!!! Because it is a dummy coil that is only providing the hum cancellation, I certainly would consider it a true single coil. Fenders new noiseless pickups with the Samarium cobalt are actually single coil pickups even though they have 2 coils. They sandwich the magnet between the 2 stacked coils and the bottom coil just cancels out the hum. It doesn't effect the tone of the upper coil at all. Thats single coil in my book.

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If Fender has new noiseless technology it seems logical that EJ would have wanted to leverage that when designing his set.

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If Fender has new noiseless technology it seems logical that EJ would have wanted to leverage that when designing his set.

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I hear you Jim. My guess is that he is using the new Samarium noiseless design and having the upper coil that is active custom wound to his specs. They are basically designed just like the Dimarzio HS series with the difference being the lower stacked coil is just for noise cancellation and not for a true dual humbucking mode.

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Like I said earlier, as long as they're cheaper than Fralins... [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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"They sandwich the magnet between the 2 stacked coils and the bottom coil just cancels out the hum. It doesn't effect the tone of the upper coil at all."

They may have figured out how to voice it so it sounds close to a single coil, but having the other coil active, magnets or not, has now made the pickup a humbucker, and loads the curcuit as such, hence not a true single coil.

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If Fender has new noiseless technology it seems logical that EJ would have wanted to leverage that when designing his set.

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I hear you Jim. My guess is that he is using the new Samarium noiseless design and having the upper coil that is active custom wound to his specs. They are basically designed just like the Dimarzio HS series with the difference being the lower stacked coil is just for noise cancellation and not for a true dual humbucking mode.

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HOLY COW! Are you dense? For the THIRD time... The Fender EJ pickups ARE SINGLE COILS WITH ONE SINGLE COIL IN EACH PICKUP!

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If Fender has new noiseless technology it seems logical that EJ would have wanted to leverage that when designing his set.

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I hear you Jim. My guess is that he is using the new Samarium noiseless design and having the upper coil that is active custom wound to his specs. They are basically designed just like the Dimarzio HS series with the difference being the lower stacked coil is just for noise cancellation and not for a true dual humbucking mode.

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HOLY COW! Are you dense? For the THIRD time... The Fender EJ pickups ARE SINGLE COILS WITH ONE SINGLE COIL IN EACH PICKUP!

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Yea. I'm dense, and since we figured that out... how does EJ eliminate the hum associated with his SINGLE COIL IN EACH PICKUP pickups.
Wait.. I think I figured it out. Its either one of 2 things:
He either doesn't use his own signature EJ pickups
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He plays live and records with 60hz hum and has figured out a way to incorporate it into his tone. Maybe its something to do with harmonics?? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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i dont know about the stacked singles but on the ej strat switch positions 2 and 4 use the middle pickup for humbucking. when you use the bridge pickup with really high gain you do get the noise but i just roll back the volume till it goes away or use position 4. the guitar has great tone either way.
and i thought the dense comment was uncalled for it was just a conversation between two people and i learned some stuff i didnt know about, weather it applies to the ej or not.

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i dont know about the stacked singles but on the ej strat switch positions 2 and 4 use the middle pickup for humbucking. when you use the bridge pickup with really high gain you do get the noise but i just roll back the volume till it goes away or use position 4. the guitar has great tone either way.
and i thought the dense comment was uncalled for it was just a conversation between two people and i learned some stuff i didnt know about, weather it applies to the ej or not.

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Just about every Fender Strat with a 5 pos switch is noise cancelling in positions 2 and 4. I agree.. rolling the volume will eliminate some hum but it also eliminates the clarity and treble too. That is why some players use treble bleed caps to retain the treble when you roll the volume. I would think that double potting the single coils and completely copper shielding the control cavity would eliminate alot of hum too.
Regarding the "dense" comment... its all good. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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i dont know about the stacked singles but on the ej strat switch positions 2 and 4 use the middle pickup for humbucking. when you use the bridge pickup with really high gain you do get the noise but i just roll back the volume till it goes away or use position 4. the guitar has great tone either way.
and i thought the dense comment was uncalled for it was just a conversation between two people and i learned some stuff i didnt know about, weather it applies to the ej or not.

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Just about every Fender Strat with a 5 pos switch is noise cancelling in positions 2 and 4.

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That's because the middle pickup is reverse wound/reverse polarity to cancel the hum when on in conjunction with the bridge or middle pup.