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    The UPS driver came yesterday and dropped off a Line 6 Variax 600. I got the sonic blue one. As in <font color="#85b0E4">TARHEEL blue</font> and as opposed to <font color="#85b0E4">baby blue</font> which may seem the same to you put it's clearly much different. I plugged it into my THD Univalve into a Boogie Thiele ported 1x12 with Vintage 30's and fed it through a Rocktron Chameleon for a little while too.

    I've owned 3 other Variaxes (2 500's and one 700 with trem) so I pretty much knew what to expect. The 600 has the 300 electronics revision. The 600 has the same headstock and body style as the 300. The differences between the 600 and the 300 is the 600 has a whidlee bar and the neck is much better. That's not to say the neck on the 600 is great, more that the neck on the 300 is total shite.

    I ran through the various guitar models and it sounded as good and bad as the ones I had before. The Strat, Tele, Les Paul, Firebird, Gretsch, 6-string Rick, Sitar, jazz box, semi-holow, and 6-string acoustics all sounded pretty darn good. The 12-strings suck still. They are really bad. I tried dialing in compression and chorus and delay and reverb to bury them and somehow the suck kept ringing through - impressive. This is a sign of the larger problem with the Variax. More on that in a minute.

    I had a lot of fun with this. It really is quite convincing. A Tele really sounds like a Tele. The quack sounds on a Strat sound right. The Rick's jangle. The Les Paul neck pickup gets all fat and warm like you expect. The hollow body models inspire you to play all three "jazz" chords you know [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] The semi-hollows emit kick ass blues tones. The Gretsch handled Stray Cat Strut no problem. The acoustics were sort of mediocre running through my guitar amp but I know from past experience that running them through a rig more suited to an acoustic guitar that they sound like pretty good piezo equipped guitars - the Variax comes with a footswitch just for this purpose.

    Is the Variax as good as your best Strat, Les Paul, whatever? Nah. But it's very good. It really is.

    Then it was time to fire up the Variax Workbench. This is a piece of software that allows you to reconfigure the guitar to your heart's content. You connect the Variax to a PC via either the Workbench USB box, a PODxt Live, or a Vetta with a VDI board. You can reprogram any "patch" on the Variax to be anything you want it to be.

    You can create all sorts of monstrosities with the Workbench or you can just tweak existing guitar models for subtle changes.

    For instance, the first thing I created was a flametop Les Paul with two Tele bridge pickups wired in series side by side.

    You pick a body - Les Paul, Strat, Tele, etc.

    You pick pickups - Les Paul PAF, Danelectro lipstick, Firebird mini-hum, etc.

    You tweak the controls - you pick the pot values - 500k, 250k, etc. and the capacitor values .47pf, etc.

    Note that the options are limited for acoustic based models.

    And you can tweak the tuning. This is where the Variax could shine but ends up disappointing.

    Remember my Les Tele monster that I created? I made it a baritone - I dropped the tuning down to B. It sounded pretty weak IMO. There was all sorts of what I call "little digital mystery sounds" happening. It's hard to describe but it's not a good thing. I did find that with some Chameleon mixed in things got better - a little chorus, distortion, reverb, and/or delay definitely masks the annoyances here.

    Want open E tuning? Want drop D? No problem.

    You could do the 12-string thing only with limited body types - so I couldn't turn my Les Tele into a 12-string monstrosity. But I could make a Rick Tele 12-string. There really was no salvaging the 12-string tones. Maybe with time and tweaking. I also know they are working on an update so hopefully the tuning stuff will improve.
    I want REAL change. I want dead bodies littering the capitol.

    - Newc

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    Re: Variax 600 first impressions

    Neat [img]/images/graemlins/toast.gif[/img]
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    • #3
      Re: Variax 600 first impressions

      One more thing. I found in the past that the Variax sounds better with Elixirs or some other coated strings because for some reason the noise is much more noticeable on these.
      I want REAL change. I want dead bodies littering the capitol.

      - Newc

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      • #4
        Re: Variax 600 first impressions

        Thanks for posting this very interesting review. Does it do emulations of bass guitars?

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        • #5
          Re: Variax 600 first impressions

          kevin's does. he's all line 6'ed out. not sure what electronics his has, but the clips that i've heard sound like they should.
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          • #6
            Re: Variax 600 first impressions

            The Variax guitar does not do bass guitar emulations. You can drop the tuning an octave so you can get as low as a bass no problem.

            They make a Variax bass though.
            I want REAL change. I want dead bodies littering the capitol.

            - Newc

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            • #7
              Re: Variax 600 first impressions

              Cool Tim. Nice review. I've been wondering about those guitars. How's the 12 string Ric? I've been thinking of getting a 370/12 and there is a 4-6 month wait on those. If the Variax is close maybe I've got a more versatle guitar.
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              • #8
                Re: Variax 600 first impressions

                Tim, do you have any way of posting clips? Or kevin? Or... anyone with a variax? I'd like to hear what users are getting, as opposed to the craptacular line6 board stuff. Thanks!

                Pete

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                  Re: Variax 600 first impressions

                  [ QUOTE ]
                  Cool Tim. Nice review. I've been wondering about those guitars. How's the 12 string Ric? I've been thinking of getting a 370/12 and there is a 4-6 month wait on those. If the Variax is close maybe I've got a more versatle guitar.

                  [/ QUOTE ]

                  I would suggest you wait 4-6 months. The 12-strings on the Variax are pretty bad.
                  I want REAL change. I want dead bodies littering the capitol.

                  - Newc

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                  • #10
                    Re: Variax 600 first impressions

                    [ QUOTE ]
                    Tim, do you have any way of posting clips? Or kevin? Or... anyone with a variax? I'd like to hear what users are getting, as opposed to the craptacular line6 board stuff. Thanks!

                    Pete

                    [/ QUOTE ]

                    I will try and get around to getting setup for recording and posting clips within the next week or so. I have so much stuff to do for Christmas and clean up around here.
                    I want REAL change. I want dead bodies littering the capitol.

                    - Newc

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                    • #11
                      Re: Variax 600 first impressions

                      FYI-

                      Any detunings on the variax through workbench will sound warbly. This happenens only through the 1/4 guitar jack and not through the digital interface from what I understand...
                      Don't worry - I'll smack her if it comes to that. You do not sell guitars to buy shoes. You skimp on food to buy shoes! ~Mrs Tekky 06-03-08~

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                        Re: Variax 600 first impressions

                        [ QUOTE ]
                        FYI-

                        Any detunings on the variax through workbench will sound warbly. This happenens only through the 1/4 guitar jack and not through the digital interface from what I understand...

                        [/ QUOTE ]

                        I would love to hear from someone that has confirmed that. Perhaps Newc will in a few weeks.

                        On a technical level that really doesn't make sense to me. The difference between the signal going out the 1/4" jack and the digital out is really just the D/A conversion. If that were to introduce warble then all sounds coming out of the Variax would have that problem. I suppose it is possible that they were somehow able to harness the power of the digital host device (Vetta or XTL) to offload some processing onto - I have my doubts though.

                        My Vetta doesn't have the VDI board for the Variax or I'd give it a shot and back when I did have a Vetta with a VDI board the Variax didn't have the alternate tunings feature. Although I can confirm that the 12-strings still sounded like crap through the digital out into the Vetta.
                        I want REAL change. I want dead bodies littering the capitol.

                        - Newc

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                        • #13
                          Re: Variax 600 first impressions

                          IF not for the high gain crappiness, I would have happily kept my Variax.

                          When they get some good chug, better sound harmonics, and the Workbench tuning stuff all sorted and optimised, I will deft buy another one. A 300 with a nice Warmoth aftermarket neck, and possibly get a humbucker routed on it just for those days when you wanna go back to mag pups!

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                            Re: Variax 600 first impressions

                            [ QUOTE ]
                            [ QUOTE ]
                            FYI-

                            Any detunings on the variax through workbench will sound warbly. This happenens only through the 1/4 guitar jack and not through the digital interface from what I understand...

                            [/ QUOTE ]

                            I would love to hear from someone that has confirmed that. Perhaps Newc will in a few weeks.


                            [/ QUOTE ]

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