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    Recently acquired a '90 1/2 PRS (body is dated 12/26/90, neck serial is 91) custom 24 w/birds and a '9.5' top (marked as 10 top in pickup cavity, was downgraded when they sanded/finished it.) Has a Van Zandt humbucker in the neck (not sure what version, it's marked van zandt and is a zebra) and a HFS bridge. Also recently acquired a bad monkey overdrive pedal. Tried em both out at a gig on 12/23. My random impressions:

    The PRS has a really nice tone, especially the neck pickup. because of the placement on the 24 fret neck body, the neck pickup is moved a little more towards the bridge. I can get pinch harmonics with it, and it has a deep tone with a nice bright top end. I set it up with 5 springs and no pullup on the bar, and didn't even have the bar installed. Used it like I would a stoptail. Strings felt a little loose like a Gibson, but not flabby. A nice compromise. The neck is pretty good, but my other gig guitars that night had lower actions. The PRS had a stellar neck tone and a passable bridge tone, and sustained well. Weight wasn't too bad, I really prefer this guitar over the Les Pauls I've owned. Better upper fret access, better looking (IMHO) and lighter.

    I used the bad monkey to drive my amber channel on the JSX - crunch city! A little hissy, so I only used it for some solos, but it had plenty of gain without that washed out/way overcompressed vibe. The BM has seperate bass/treble controls, and works well as a clean boost *and* a distortion. I say if you use a boost pedal, one of these might be a good addition to your collection. FYI, Fritz Reiser is the man! He gave me the BM and an eq pedal - both mint in the box. Fritz ROCKS. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

    JSX crushed as usual. The PRS sounded wonderful clean with the neck pickup, and the other channels were fine too. Plenty of smooth sustain, lots of compression for legato and two handed stuff also.

    Other guitars I used that night were:

    Peavey Wolfgang USA flametop - I use it for all our Eb stuff, because I can flip the D tuna and play unchained easily. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] We do some old Van Halen and Extreme tunes.

    ESP MII Deluxe w/floating floyd - my main floating floyd guitar live. Holds a lower action than the PRS (sorry prs fans!) and the bridge pickup (duncan JB) sounds better to me than the HFS. However, the PRS sounded better clean, and I enjoyed playing it more. This is my 'stunt guitar' - we do Vai and Satriani covers.

    Charvel San Dimas series USA strat ('95) - I didn't play this guitar much at all. It has a more convincing strat tone of course, but I really dig the neck pickup on the PRS for cleans even more than my strats. I even played cliffs of dover on the PRS, I usually use this or another one of my strats.

    So far: I really like the PRS. The newer ones have a bit more heel, not a real big deal, but I would never buy one new. Just way too much money for me to deal with. Used I think they are a pretty good deal - I'd prefer a PRS over a Gibson 99% of the time. I need to find a bridge pickup that isn't so harsh (and zebra, I dig how zebras look) and I'll be set.

    Pete

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    Re: PRS/bad Monkey/JSX review

    Cool. While I've never tried the Bad Monkey, I do own the old discontinued DOD Juice Box... which is what the Bad Monkey is supposed to be. It's a kick-ass pedal, seems like their version of the Tube Screamer.
    I feel my soul go cold... only the dead are smiling.

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    • #3
      Re: PRS/bad Monkey/JSX review

      Very cool, Pete. Good to hear you enjoy your new toy and that you might not be turning it around so soon. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/poke.gif[/img]

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      • #4
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        I just can never tell if something is going to work for me until it gets gigged - and that tells me REAL fast. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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        • #5
          Re: PRS/bad Monkey/JSX review

          Hey, to me that sounds like the BEST way to know if a guitar is a good fit. You just can't know for sure, even if you play it in a store with a the same amp you have at home. It's just not the same as it would be through your rig in your particular situation.

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          • #6
            Re: PRS/bad Monkey/JSX review

            Nice review Pete. That JSX must sound good. You have had it for an EXTREMELY long time (in amp whore years).

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            • #7
              Re: PRS/bad Monkey/JSX review

              Very cool. PRS makes a great guitar, no doubt about it. I bought a CE24 new, and it was worth every penny, especially considering the price was within a few dollars of the new Charvel San Dimas Reissues I bought this year. Actually, the PRS is of higher quality than the Charvels IMO (sorry C/J), and REALLY smokes the RR1 that I picked up recently in the playability department... One piece mahogany back, nice thick matched flamed top, great fretwork etc... the guitar is flawless.

              Strange that you say your PRS is bright. Mine has a dark, syrupy tone to it (HFS in the bridge). The neck pickup (stock vintage bass) is great too.

              I'm sure you already know this, but don't be afraid to use the trem. Its not a Floyd, but it works VERY well.

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                Re: PRS/bad Monkey/JSX review

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                Nice review Pete. That JSX must sound good. You have had it for an EXTREMELY long time (in amp whore years).

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                Yeah I have - it was the amp that killed the Vetta, and I had the Vetta for nearly 2 years. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Thing I like about the JSX is that there isn't anything I would change on it feature-wise - has a great fx loop, three useful channels that each sound good, takes pedals well, is inexpensive, and built well. And easy to bias.

                Ok, bad thing about the JSX? It's heavy as HELL. I think it weighs as much as two Mark IIIs.

                Pete

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                • #9
                  Re: PRS/bad Monkey/JSX review

                  [ QUOTE ]
                  Very cool. PRS makes a great guitar, no doubt about it. I bought a CE24 new, and it was worth every penny, especially considering the price was within a few dollars of the new Charvel San Dimas Reissues I bought this year. Actually, the PRS is of higher quality than the Charvels IMO (sorry C/J), and REALLY smokes the RR1 that I picked up recently in the playability department... One piece mahogany back, nice thick matched flamed top, great fretwork etc... the guitar is flawless.

                  Strange that you say your PRS is bright. Mine has a dark, syrupy tone to it (HFS in the bridge). The neck pickup (stock vintage bass) is great too.

                  I'm sure you already know this, but don't be afraid to use the trem. Its not a Floyd, but it works VERY well.

                  [/ QUOTE ]

                  I don't like the trem, and it's even one of the desireable ones (early mil-com). It just doesn't have the range that I'm used to, but it does stay in tune ok. I'm used to floyds that I can yank up a 5th or drop down until the strings flap around. Can't do that with a PRS. This one is basically my Les Paul replacement - for blues/rock stuff. I think PRS in general smokes Gibson. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

                  Pete

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                  • #10
                    Re: PRS/bad Monkey/JSX review

                    I'll give ya the range argument. I also think the bar itself is too flimsy. I like the big Floyd style bars myself. But as non locking trems go, PRS bridges are very good.

                    Glad you like the guitar... and stop talking about that damn JSX. If you keep it up, I'm going to end up dropping the coin on one, and I know I really shouldn't. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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                    • #11
                      Re: PRS/bad Monkey/JSX review

                      Hey, I have a friend getting rid of one of his amps for a JSX because I loaned him mine for a week. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

                      Pete

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                      • #12
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                        I think PRS in general smokes Gibson. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

                        Pete

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                        I'm not sure I agree with statement. Everytime I come here and read that PRS, Hamer, etc blow away Gibson, I look at the PRS and Hamers I have/had, and wonder if you guys are buying the same guitars I am. I'd say PRS are in the same league as Gibson, and Hamer, PRS, and Gibson make really great guitars but Im not sure they smoke 'em...........

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                          Re: PRS/bad Monkey/JSX review

                          Well, I don't think that any of the Hamers I've owned were once owned by you. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] So I guess I'm not buying the same guitars you are. [img]/images/graemlins/poke.gif[/img] But I do think that all the Hamers I've played smoke all the Gibsons I've played. Granted, I know for a fact that I haven't played the best Gibsons out there. But all the Hamers I've played/owned have been amazing quality. All the PRS's have been, too. Gibsons just aren't consistent enough. Hamer and PRS are, in my experience. I prefer Hamer over PRS because of my personal preferences in the construction and feel. But I would take either one of them over a Gibson in a heartbeat.

                          Since you got me off topic a bit, it reminds me. Pete, since you did used to own my Hamer Special FM, how would you compare it to the PRS you got? Of course, I know about the differences: 24 frets, trem, arch top, fancy inlays, etc. But in terms of playability and sound, how would you personally compare the two. And what pickups did you have in the Hamer when you had it?

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                            Re: PRS/bad Monkey/JSX review

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                            [ QUOTE ]

                            I think PRS in general smokes Gibson. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

                            Pete

                            [/ QUOTE ]

                            I'm not sure I agree with statement. Everytime I come here and read that PRS, Hamer, etc blow away Gibson, I look at the PRS and Hamers I have/had, and wonder if you guys are buying the same guitars I am. I'd say PRS are in the same league as Gibson, and Hamer, PRS, and Gibson make really great guitars but Im not sure they smoke 'em...........

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                            LOL! Maybe they smoke the beat to shit Gibsons? [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

                            I have 5 smokin' Gibsons (3 LP's and 2 SG's). The other day I played a 1976 LP Custom at a GC that was the BIGGEST PIECE OF SHIT I had ever played (it had serious issues) and they wanted $3500 for it!

                            In reality, each guitar is different, as is each person's taste. To each there own [img]/images/graemlins/toast.gif[/img]

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                            • #15
                              Re: PRS/bad Monkey/JSX review

                              Let me put it this way: from the Gibsons I've played, I've preferred Hamers and PRS's. They just don't seem to have the QC that Hamer especially has. I've seen some stuff on 'new' USA Gibsons that I wouldn't have accepted on an import jackson.

                              Now, maybe if we're comparing Cherry Picked Gibsons with off the shelf average Hamers and PRS guitars, I could see them being equivalent. But I've never seen a PRS or Hamer with a warped neck that was being hung as 'new' - or loose frets, or some of the finish issues that I've seen on them. I'm talking about new, off the rack guitars. I'm sure Gibson makes some great guitars, it's just I don't think when you're paying Gibson prices you should have to go through several to find the good ones. I expect it with Mexican Fenders: Then again, they are a lot less money than the Gibsons are!

                              Of course, everyone's mileage may vary. Just my opinion. I have owned a few Gibsons though (Dual cut LP jr, LP Classic, LP standard, 80s Explorer w/Kahler).

                              Pete

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