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  • RainSong or Taylor? Help me decide!

    I've been slowly building up to a quality acoustic guitar purchase (it's not easy for me to drop cash on an acoustic, since I find electrics far more exciting), and I think I'm finally ready, but I am torn between a few different options. All have a cutaway and electronics. I typically play around the house, and outside in the summer (campfires, dock, etc.).

    Here goes:

    RainSong A-WS1000 - $1200
    Graphite guitar with a THIN neck. Sounds good (A-), plays good now/could play great forever with one good setup (A+), looks a bit plain/cheap compared to wooden guitars IMO, but not too bad, and is kinda unique (B+). It is impervious to temperature and humidity changes and needs no seasonal adjustments. It does have a truss rod, but that's only to get the neck set up the way you like it. Then it will never move.

    Taylor 324-CE L-10 - $1700
    This is the 2005 Fall Limited Edition of the Taylor 314-CE. It is made of Koa, instead of Mahogany and Spruce. Looks very attractive (A). Plays OK (thicker neck) (B), sounds very good (A).

    Taylor 414-CE L-10 - $1700
    This is the 2005 Fall Limited Edition of the Taylor 414-CE. It has Rosewood back & sides instead of the normal Ovangkol. The top is still Spruce. Looks plain from the front (plain Spruce), pretty from the back (Rosewood) (A-). Sounds very good (A). Plays OK (B).

    Between the Taylors, it might seem like a no-brainer to pick the 4xx series over the 3xx series, since they're the same price, and the 4xx series is typically priced higher, but as I understand it, the major difference between the 3xx and 4xx series is the woods used (plus the 3xx has black binding and the 4xx has white binding, but that's no big deal to me), and with the LE models, the woods are different anyway.

    I tried all 3 today, and I'm getting pretty close to buying one of them. The Taylors do sound a bit better than the RainSong, but all 3 sound good, and the RainSong has been at the store longer, so new strings might help. The RainSong has a nicer neck.

    I think that both RainSong and Taylor are respected American companies, though RainSong is not as well known. All of these appear to be quality, Made In USA guitars.

    Advantages: The RainSong is tough as nails, and I should be able to get one killer set up done, then never worry about it again - and it's $500 cheaper, though it only includes a gig bag, so maybe I should add $100 or so to that price for a hardshell case. The Taylors' advantages are sound, looks (especially the Koa model), and the fact that everyone I know of raves about Taylor.

    Disadvantages? The RainSong looks pretty plain, and some might say, a bit cheaper. Either of the Taylors will have to be babied more, and I will worry about humidity, etc., more, which would make me less likely to bring the acoustic out to the campfire, play it on the deck in the sun, etc. Plus, more $.

    So, what do y'all think?

  • #2
    Re: RainSong or Taylor? Help me decide!

    I would go with one of the Taylors, no contest.
    the guitar players look damaged - they've been outcasts all their lives

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    • #3
      Re: RainSong or Taylor? Help me decide!

      My vote is for the Taylor! I don't know too much about Rainsong but I have a Taylor 514CE. I purchased it about a year ago and love it! I chose it over the similar priced Martins. Check out the Taylor forum, there is lots of info there. Also, the Taylor expression system gets a bad rap, but I haven't had any problems and love how it sounds.

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      • #4
        Re: RainSong or Taylor? Help me decide!

        It's not a comparison, but I have a Taylor 610 - it sounds great and I love it!
        Popular is not the same as good
        Rare is not the same as valuable
        Worth is what someone will pay, not what you want to get

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        • #5
          Re: RainSong or Taylor? Help me decide!

          The 314-CE sounds the most attractive from what you said and from what I know. (Having never played any of the three mentioned guitars).
          You took too much, man. Too much. Too much.

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          • #6
            Re: RainSong or Taylor? Help me decide!

            I would vote for the Taylors. I'm a big fan of Taylor guitars. Also, I strongly suggest you call Chuck Levin's for much better prices. I got a 354-CE L-7 from them a few months back for substantially less than the prices you've posted.

            http://www.chucklevins.com
            I want REAL change. I want dead bodies littering the capitol.

            - Newc

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            • #7
              Re: RainSong or Taylor? Help me decide!

              Oh, if you call Chuck's - ask for Bill Brooks, Paul Schein, or Brian Meader - all three of them have hooked me up in the past quite nicely - Paul sold me the 354 and really knows his stuff about Taylors.
              I want REAL change. I want dead bodies littering the capitol.

              - Newc

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              • #8
                Re: RainSong or Taylor? Help me decide!

                Thanks, everyone! I watched Bob Taylor's videos about humidity last night, and they had a dual effect:

                1. Made me want a Taylor more, seeing how involved he is in the details.

                2. Made me want a Taylor (or any wooden acoustic) less, seeing what can happen to these things when they lack humidity. [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

                My gear typically has an easy life (spending 95% of it in my living room), and I don't plan to abuse it in any way, but on the other hand, I don’t want to feel like I’m walking on eggshells, afraid to take it outside in the summer, etc. Do any of you guys play your Taylors outside (e.g., around a campfire, on a sunny deck or dock, etc.?), and how much maintenance do these require? I’ve never had an all-solid wood acoustic before. My current acoustic has a solid wood top, but the back & sides aren’t solid, which I understand makes it more impervious to damage.

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                • #9
                  Re: RainSong or Taylor? Help me decide!

                  Mine have gone outside - no worries. Acoustic guitars aren't *that* delicate.

                  All you have to do is keep them hydrated - I put mine in the case once in a while with a Dampit. It's only ever been an issue in the winter with the dry heat.

                  This has a good little description of the Dampit:
                  http://www.whitsettguitarworks.com/dampit.htm
                  I want REAL change. I want dead bodies littering the capitol.

                  - Newc

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                  • #10
                    Re: RainSong or Taylor? Help me decide!

                    Thanks, Tim! I did contact Brian, too, and thanks for that contact info. He had good prices on the RainSong and a regular Taylor model (614-CE), not as good on the L10 models. I suppose that makes sense, since they're limited editions. He seemed like a decent guy, and I'll definitely keep them in mind (BTW - no slight is intended to our forum-sponsoring dealers. I don't think any of them carry Taylor or RainSong, but if they do, I'd be interested in dealing with them, too).

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                    • #11
                      Re: RainSong or Taylor? Help me decide!

                      I highly recommend the 614CE - that is my favorite acoustic guitar ever.
                      I want REAL change. I want dead bodies littering the capitol.

                      - Newc

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                      • #12
                        Re: RainSong or Taylor? Help me decide!

                        Hmm. Depending on how my eBay sales go, I might just be able to swing a 614 (hope springs eternal). [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
                        Only problem is that doggone glossy neck! [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

                        P.S. Our local store had a Doyle Dykes model that was the nicest acoustic I've ever played - but when I saw that it was over 3 grand, I gently put it back. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

                        P.P.S. They also had an 800 series model that was amazing. I think it had a Cocobolo back. Again, out of my range, though.

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                        • #13
                          Re: RainSong or Taylor? Help me decide!

                          Taylor 414-CE LFE is one of my favorite guitars ever. I get kind of sad when we sell one at work.

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                          • #14
                            Re: RainSong or Taylor? Help me decide!

                            I've wanted a 714-CE for a long time, thinking that the Rosewood back & sides would be nice, so it's kind of a stroke of luck for me that the 414-CE L10 has Rosewood back & sides. But the Koa on the 324-CE L10 looks very striking.

                            HERE ARE PICS OF THE 324-CE

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                            • #15
                              Re: RainSong or Taylor? Help me decide!

                              I've been a Taylor fan for over 10 years. I also have a 710 and a Baby that I really enjoy. Taylors have a certain clarity and balance that I really like. I've only tried a few Rainsongs over the years, so I don't necessarily have a bad opinion of them. However, I've had my 710 for over 10 years and the only other acoustics I've ever really liked as much are some of the models from Santa Cruz.
                              Takeoffs are optional but landings are mandatory.

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