Lee Garver is an unethical piece of *&#%$@

[Chrisb]

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I've never seen anything like this before. Even crap chinese guitars are better built than that. I had always planned to get a guitar from Lee because he was helpful to me in the past, but now I don't think I'll do that. Either way you have put serious doubts into my mind about a company run by a guy who would pull shit like what I'm looking at. Horrible. I hope you get a FULL refund for all this trouble.

[surfdork]

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Damn Vic...that is completely unacceptable. Best of luck getting some kind of satisfaction outta this. I quit drinking the GMW "Kool-Aid" a while ago, after a few issues of my own with a resto job done there.

[Top Jimmy B]

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We had a noob here a while back and he was ranting about Lee and referred to him as, "Lee Garver - guitar shipper." [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] I thought that was funny as hell, due in part to the fact that it is damn near true.

[Flatpicker]

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That just looks bad.
Thank god there are actual Charvies out there now.

[toejam]

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Holy shit, Vic! That really sucks!!! Hope this situation gets resolved somehow. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

[MikeE]

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I have never played a GMW so I can only comment on the pix but there is no excuse for what he did. Anyone that attempts to defend GMW for this is being unreasonable. This is something I would expect from Roman.

I can't imagine someone would risk their reputation over that, especially a small company that does almost all of their business by word of mouth. It would have totally been worth it to just cut a new neck and start over.

What a shame...

[jgcable]

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Again, isn't it harder to remove frets, plane down a fretboard and apply a veneer to it rather than just replacing the fretboard? It still doesn't make sense to me why he glued on a "faux" fretboard.
MikeE mentioned Ed Roman. I have never heard of Ed doing something like this. I have heard other things regarding him passing off clone guitars as real ones but nothing ever like this. It makes you wonder if the GMW figure tops are veneer too or worse.... photo flame.
I know the pictures are worth a million words but this just doesn't make sense coming from such a reputable company as GMW.

[skorb]

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wow that is an incredibly bad job on a custom guitar.
if this is what it appears, then I agree this is a complete fraud that he charged you a custom guitar price for this garbage.

[sevser]

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I don't blame you one bit for being totally pissed.

[Chameleonfong]

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I have had only minor issues with my Jacksons and none with my ESP guitars, I was only saying this because I get a hard time for buying ESPees by other people.


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ESP FUCKING ROCKS!!! Their QC is one of the best!

My two cents
Fong

[Jack Napalm]

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I was looking at the GMW site. Does Lee offer a lifetime warranty on his guitars? Or any warranty?

[jgcable]

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I have had only minor issues with my Jacksons and none with my ESP guitars, I was only saying this because I get a hard time for buying ESPees by other people.


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ESP FUCKING ROCKS!!! Their QC is one of the best!

My two cents
Fong

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Almost good as high end Ibanez. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[Newc]

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If he did, it's probably blown now since the other guy already ripped the board.

As for Vic "owing Lee a chance to make it right rather than bashing him on a public board" - [img]/images/graemlins/nono.gif[/img] Uh-uh. Lee had the chance - twice - and blew it. He owes Vic a total refund IMO.

[shreddermon]

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Have you talked to GMW about this discovery yet? Is it possible that perhaps Lee himself is not aware of this issue? You're assuming that he personally did the fretboard/inlay work, but perhaps that was "outsourced" somewhere else and Lee himself is unaware of the shoddy fix that was done? Just something to think about before the torches and pitchforks come out.

I'm not suggesting that you should expect any recourse from that route. And, quite frankly, were I in your shoes, I wouldn't even attempt to get any. The continued frustration ain't worth it, IMHO.

But wouldn't it be better to discuss the new discovery with them before airing it on an internet forum? And, if they weren't aware, they'd probably like to know.

[Shawn Lutz]

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I think a replacemet neck is needed, regardless of who, what or when work was done on that neck