Lee Garver is an unethical piece of *&#%$@

[Jack Napalm]

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As far as JCMIs toothpick deal..I guess Sully's answer will be construed as "protecting" the company and John again right? It would seem that bitching only works for some of you when it's your ideals and values and it's sensless BS when it someone elses problem..

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Watch it, your jaded side is showing again. [img]/images/graemlins/poke.gif[/img]

If this thread bothers someone for going on too long we could just get some noobs to come in and ask about GMW guitars every week.

[thetruthguy]

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So, like, when are the new GMW headstocks coming out ??? [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Seriously, I said it earlier ... from Australia, can you take him to small claims??? Price-wise, I believe you're in that territory. No need for a lawyer, and I think you have a sure-fire case.

[thetruthguy]

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Gene, you said that it's too far away to pursue legal avenues, but if I remember correctly, when you sue a merchant over quality control, they have to come to where you live. Because we're talking about two different countries, I don't know what the whole process is, but if this happened solely in the U.S., you could go to the Federal Trade Commission. There's things like warranty of merchantability, ethical practices, etc., that you could look into. This definitely falls under international law. If nothing else, go to a local court and talk to someone about what your options are.

[hippietim]

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As far as JCMIs toothpick deal..I guess Sully's answer will be construed as "protecting" the company and John again right? It would seem that bitching only works for some of you when it's your ideals and values and it's sensless BS when it someone elses problem..

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Honestly, Sully's answer doesn't mean anything to me either way in this case. He expressed his opinion - nothing wrong with that because he has nothing to do with building these guitars. It was the other responses that were not too satisfying.

[~K~]

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Honestly, Sully's answer doesn't mean anything to me either way in this case. He expressed his opinion - nothing wrong with that because he has nothing to do with building these guitars. It was the other responses that were not too satisfying.


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Either way that response had nothing to do with Vic's thread and that was done in attempt to be sarcastic and derail it ..

[txcharvel]

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This thread is so good, I've ready portions of it to my wife [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

The JCF isn't all about guitars, it's about mystery, intrigue, who's screwing who, who really has the coolest axe collection and what will somebody else do to get it...

I'm holding auditions here in Austin next week for the live theatrical presentation of "Death of a Guitar" or "Mystery of the Mysterious, Mysteriously Floating Frets". I'm hoping to get Russel Crowe to play Genebaby and Dick Cheney to play Lee.

Coming to theaters Summer 2006 [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[hippietim]

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Honestly, Sully's answer doesn't mean anything to me either way in this case. He expressed his opinion - nothing wrong with that because he has nothing to do with building these guitars. It was the other responses that were not too satisfying.


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Either way that response had nothing to do with Vic's thread and that was done in attempt to be sarcastic and derail it ..

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Sarcastic - guilty as charged. I'm sorry. I know how folks don't take too kindly to sarcasm on the JCF.

As for derailing it Kevin, I think the first signs of that were on page 2 [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[sully]

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This thread is so good, I've ready portions of it to my wife [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

The JCF isn't all about guitars, it's about mystery, intrigue, who's screwing who, who really has the coolest axe collection and what will somebody else do to get it...

I'm holding auditions here in Austin next week for the live theatrical presentation of "Death of a Guitar" or "Mystery of the Mysterious, Mysteriously Floating Frets". I'm hoping to get Russel Crowe to play Genebaby and Dick Cheney to play Lee.

Coming to theaters Summer 2006 [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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nice! just be sure to have cheney walk through the metal detector; we don't need any more "accidents!" [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[horns666]

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I found this informative...I have nothing to add here that wasn't said already..

sometimes venting on such things as this misfortune is necessary..I think.

I'm leary of humans anyway..I don't know these people ..Lee, Moser, that goofy lookin pud Ed Roman..

I don't think I want or need to...So, I'll keep it that way..

I played awesome axes for over 25 years without knowing the likes of them..I'm doing fine on my own ..

Thanks for the heads up!

Fuggum!

[Shawn Lutz]

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just to keep on track is http://beatingadeadhorse.com or http://toothpicksinswisscheeseJACKSONneckpockets.com domains available? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[hippietim]

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dick cheney as lee. now that is funny.

[SEEGERMANY]

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Fuck Lee!

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Bruce Lee's son?

[bibz]

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Funny, I'm feeling closure now this far down into the thread. I think it was a good healthy discussion where everybody brought what they had to to the table and it was read and analysed by all involved and handled in a respectful manner. No need to lock or delete anything, this is a mature piece of jcf history! I mean it does take long to derail a valentines day thread with homemade sauce now does it [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

I felt the pain being aussie too of the confusion of whether to send it back or not. Shipping is a bitch, an expensive bitch at that! It really would be the last step. And its not like we take our guitars to Steve Irwin [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] We have plenty of quality luthiers down here, including our own jcf member from Ormsby Guitars.

Come to think of it I spent over au$1250 snagging a cheap us$350 slsmg too....a passage of rite for the aussie charvel/jackson fan?

and as for scrapping it and starting again...have you not seen it? What a hotrod! Whack on a new board and enjoy the fuck out of it dude, you've earnt it, and deserve it [img]/images/graemlins/headbang.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/headbang.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/headbang.gif[/img]

....its not like lee made the body or neck [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[sully]

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Fuck Lee!

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Bruce Lee's son?

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yep; he's a porno star.

[Joe_Steeler]

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Fuck Lee!

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Bruce Lee's son?

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Tommy Lee, that is. [img]/images/graemlins/eek.gif[/img]