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  • My Mojo'd out the ASS '70s Jap Explorer.....

    I had been looking for an Ibanez Destroyer for a while when a Maya Explorer popped up on E-bay last week. A nice BIN was added that same evening and I pounced before really doing any research. I know, through reading posts on Ibanez collector's sites, that Hoshino also built Mayas as well as Grecos and Ibanez...all three of which put out Explorer copies.

    Now this guitar is not 100% original. The pickups were GOTOHS and appeared to be aftermarket with double hex pole pieces and non-vintage style wiring. The pikcguard and switch appear to be non-original and the tuners are replacment Grover minis. I swapped in my favorite EVH style '59/Custom Hybrid into the bridge first thing, because the bridge PU sucked.

    Now, here is what I know about Destroyers from surfing and speaking with a fellow Ed nut who collects them. Explorers were made from SEN, most of it heavy weight stuff (sometimes the lighter version was used, like one of my friend's guitars) with bodies made from as many as 8 pieces put together (Sen is apparently a small tree). Destroyers had 3 piece maple necks, often with a hump in the neck/body joint.

    Now, this guitar is a featherweight. Somewhere around 7 pounds, which was a real shock. It weighs less than my dinky bodied Basswood Predator! Also, the body is an obvious one piece affair..I could find no joints anywhere:




    The body, like I said, is very light. It does not exhibit SEN like grain, but nor does it exhibit mahogany like grain, or color. In several places the finish, which is not a light Korina finish, but a darker honey/amber, has chipped to the bare wood...and it shows a very light colored wood...almost white..like Sen:



    The neck appears to be a one piece mahogany job, with a scarf joint at the headstock. You can clearly see the difference in color between the body and the neck, also it has no hump in the heel junction:




    It has a very nice Brazilian rosewood board, with black streaks and MOP dot inlays:



    Everything on this guitar seems like excellent quality...except the plastic nut, which I am not sure is original or not. Tonally the guitar is very open and airy...it is bright. Not what I would expect from a Mahogany body..more of what I would expect of Swamp Ash or even Basswood.

    The neck is a chunky 50's style variety with vintage style frets. It is a great player though.

    Overall, a cool mojo'd out beast from the days of old. I got it for VH tunes, and it handles that quite well....nails that "On Fire" tone to the bone.....

    Mike
    Sleep. The sound doesn't collapse to riffs of early eyes either.

  • #2
    hey Mike,

    a good catch.. I had several Maya Strats, even a neck-thru, excellent guitars for the ridiculous price they are selling, at least in europe!

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    • #3
      Mike,

      Sen is similar to South American Basswood, but just slightly more dense in grain to basswood (all of which are in the balsa family). A lot of non-plywood Asian guitars were made with Sen..exception being Ibanez, which were made of light ash, and stained yellow like Korina.

      Very cool score ya got there!!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by FirebirdZ
        Mike,

        Sen is similar to South American Basswood, but just slightly more dense in grain to basswood (all of which are in the balsa family). A lot of non-plywood Asian guitars were made with Sen..exception being Ibanez, which were made of light ash, and stained yellow like Korina.

        Very cool score ya got there!!
        Interesting. Because it seems that most people think the Destroyers were made from Sen, and that most Sen is heavy...like Northern Hard Ash. A friend has 3 of them..one is a 10 pounder, one is 7.5 pounds and one is 8.5.

        Basswood was exactly what I was thinking for this guitar..but I guess it may be Sen indeed.

        Can you ID the grain?

        Mike
        Sleep. The sound doesn't collapse to riffs of early eyes either.

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        • #5
          That's pretty cool!
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          • #6
            that body wood could be maple.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by MBreinin
              Interesting. Because it seems that most people think the Destroyers were made from Sen, and that most Sen is heavy...like Northern Hard Ash. A friend has 3 of them..one is a 10 pounder, one is 7.5 pounds and one is 8.5.

              Basswood was exactly what I was thinking for this guitar..but I guess it may be Sen indeed.

              Can you ID the grain?

              Mike
              HEAVY Ash has that "baseball bat" type grain (which BB bats are made of)
              Your buddy's 10 pounder is more likely than not, heavy ash. There are several types of Ash...most are domestic, but there's other species overseas. In a nutshell...the same heavy ash over here, could be way different than the heavy ash in Asia. Same grain pattern. It's pretty easy to spot. But different degrees of body mass. Very inconsistent as well which explains all the wacky weight differences.

              Like I mentioned also, Sen is almost identical to basswood in grain pattern. The only way to tell those apart are in the control cavity (or anywhere you have bare wood) jam your thumbnail (softly) into it. If it leaves an indent, it's basswood...if not...then it's Sen (tighter grain than basswood).

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              • #8
                Originally posted by FirebirdZ
                HEAVY Ash has that "baseball bat" type grain (which BB bats are made of)
                Your buddy's 10 pounder is more likely than not, heavy ash. There are several types of Ash...most are domestic, but there's other species overseas. In a nutshell...the same heavy ash over here, could be way different than the heavy ash in Asia. Same grain pattern. It's pretty easy to spot. But different degrees of body mass. Very inconsistent as well which explains all the wacky weight differences.

                Like I mentioned also, Sen is almost identical to basswood in grain pattern. The only way to tell those apart are in the control cavity (or anywhere you have bare wood) jam your thumbnail (softly) into it. If it leaves an indent, it's basswood...if not...then it's Sen (tighter grain than basswood).
                Will do. I think it is Sen, myself. I have seen some samples on the net today that do not exhibit too much grain pattern.....

                Sully, if it is maple it is the lightest maple I have ever experienced!!!

                Mike
                Sleep. The sound doesn't collapse to riffs of early eyes either.

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                • #9
                  I was always under the impression that Sen was Japanese Ash. That's not so?
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by MBreinin
                    Also, the body is an obvious one piece affair..I could find no joints anywhere:
                    Nice guitar. Mid-seventies, right? Do you have a serial number because that would pin-point it. Most of the Ibanez guitars from this period were one piece bodies. Here's my '75 double-neck. That is one piece of mahogany. Weighs an absolute TON!



                    A local shop had a '76 Explorer just like yours, recently. Over here, the prices are really going up as people realise that they were quite nice playing guitars for their time.

                    As for your body wood. Have you checked with the Ibanez vintage website? They have some good information there.
                    Last edited by Sanctuary; 05-18-2006, 03:13 PM.
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                    • #11
                      Ignore...
                      Last edited by Sanctuary; 05-18-2006, 03:39 PM.
                      The only solution to GAS is DEATH...

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                      • #12
                        Sanctuary, all of the Ibanez Destroyers were made from more than one piece...which is what makes mine so odd...of course, mine is not an Ibanez, just made by the same factory.

                        I have a post over on the vintage Ibanez site.

                        Do you recall how much the Explorer you saw was going for? Was it a Maya or an Ibanez?

                        Mike
                        Sleep. The sound doesn't collapse to riffs of early eyes either.

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                        • #13
                          Sorry, I forgot yours was a Maya.

                          The Explorer was an Ibanez. They wanted about NZ$650 for it. So US$400.
                          The only solution to GAS is DEATH...

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Sanctuary
                            Sorry, I forgot yours was a Maya.

                            The Explorer was an Ibanez. They wanted about NZ$650 for it. So US$400.
                            Damn, that was a steal...they don't still have it, do they??

                            Mike
                            Sleep. The sound doesn't collapse to riffs of early eyes either.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by MBreinin
                              Damn, that was a steal...they don't still have it, do they??

                              Mike
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