you know the most frustrating thing.....

[gemini8026]

Is when you find a guitar for the right price, perfect options, everything great, except for ONE problem...

Its like those wanting a JAckson with a reverse head, or wanting a Jackson with one small feature that needs a doubled custom shop price

In my case, it's Carvin guitars....

they have everything. Great options, nice styles, choice of color, etc, all for a price that a new USA JAckson cant touch.

Except the fact that they use a unique scale that I dont agree with. I have owned 2 carvin guitars for short periods, and both tiumes my hands werent ready for the 25" scale. The necks were great, and the guitars were well built with great fret work. But my big clumsy fiungers that are used to a longer scale and feel more comfy there didnt agree. Carvin wont go 25.5 on their DC series, so im screwed. JAckson cant make the guitar I want unless it's custom shop, and thats REALLY $$$ and not in my budget.

It's really frustrating when these companies are so close, yet you cant gt that perfect guitar unless you're willing to spend 3k plus on a fully custom unit, and have the patience to wait a year for it.



Pleas eshare your other frustrating examples so I dont feel so bad

[GodOfRhythm]

25", to me, is smooth as butter!

Once you go passed a certain size a company can not listen to individual desires anymore, it becomes a matter of percentages, profit and economics.

I do wholeheartedly agree with you though, it sucks a great deal, but whatcha gonna do about it........

[gemini8026]

GOR, do you feel you dont notice a difference going between scales, or you can adapt easily?!???!?

Which 25" guitars do you own?

[RacerX]

25.5 & 25.0 is that huge a difference to you?

That's 2%

[Model 88]

I have all there popular scale lengths and usually have no problems adjusting.I am actually finding myself liking the 25' scale the most.It is a nice comprise for me.I mean it does take a bit when going from 24.75 to 25.5.But going from either to a 25 is not that bad. As it is not much of a increase or decrease to mess me up.

[GodOfRhythm]

GOR, do you feel you dont notice a difference going between scales, or you can adapt easily?!???!?

Which 25" guitars do you own?

I've played a couple of PRS's in stores and one PRS Custom 24 in particular that a friend owns. Most of my knowledge on playability is derived from guitars I don't actually own myself, since it's not evident to buy shitload of axes from a student's income. :p

I find adapting to different scales not too hard. Eventhough I vastly prefer fenderscale (25.5) over gibsonscale.

[jtr]

You will get use to it your only talking 3/4 of an inch between the 3 major scale lenghts. It 'll take some time just give it a chance.

[bibz]

Fingers learn there gaps though, when I got my 26.5" schecter 7 it took a few minutes for the fingers to go 'oh yeah, I gotta move a bit farther' but the fact there was a massive fretboard and an extra string overshadowed it
and .5" is huge length in guitar terms, a quarter turn on the bridge height can make the difference between perfect and fucked!

[toejam]

Carvin wont go 25.5 on their DC series, so im screwed.

Then you'll have to get a 7-string. Their DC727 and DC747 have the 25.5" scale.

[1trussell]

Or, you could also go for a Bolt, Bolt+ or Contour 66. All three of these bolt on guitars have the standard Strat scale of 25.5". However, if you're dead set on a neck thru 6 string, then you'll probably have to suck it up and go with the Carvin 25" scale or the Jackson custom shop prices.

For me, I can change between the 3 scale lengths without too much of a problem (24.75", 25" and 25.5"). But I think that the biggest difference is at the upper frets, 20-24. I just don't spend a lot of time there, so it's no big deal to me.

Good luck with your endeavor. I hope it works out for you in the end.

[lerxstcat]

I have no trouble adjusting to 24.75", 25", or 25.5" scales. Unless your fingers are 6" long I don't see why you couldn't adjust.

Gemini, you are a good guy from all I know, but I think you're with guitars like Jerry Seinfeld was with girlfriends on his show. No matter how gorgeous they were he found a flaw and tortured himself with it. Then, when he ran them off, he decided he could've lived with it.

I've just seen you go through so many guitars, and the common factor seems to be that you build a guitar up in your head, then within days or a couple of weeks of having it, you're selling it. I don't think you give yourself time to get used to anything. If it's not the nirvana you expected on first touch, it's out the door.

1/2" over the course of 24 frets is really looking for trouble where none exists. You could adjust your perceptions and be happy with any number of guitars, or you could keep expecting the next guitar to make you the ultimate and probably never be happy.

Try taking a guitar, pretend you're stuck on a desert isle with it. Play it for 6 months and see if you get used to it. The guitar can't do everything, you have to invest your time into it.

[gemini8026]

Lol, Lex, very truthful, and I couldnt agree more with you. Ive lost more money seeking for these "perfect" guitars then I care to think about. Mindj you, it's only 25+ in 6 years or so, but in that time I've come to my ideals...

24 frets, neck-thru, stainless steel frets, solid oiled neck (preferable with graphite inserts as they DO help in my heavily changing environment) and a thicker wider neck. Im not overly picky about Floyds and such, and the worst part....... Is that I cant afford to own a lot of guitars that can offer me the selection of what I feel like. Granted the search is fun and I enjoy trading and there is no excitement like opening up a new guitar package, i hate to think of all the time ive wasted guitar buying and selling when I could have been recording. Lately I have had great feedback on my recordings and Ive gotten better, but im still nagged by that search for the holy-grail.(ss frets and the graphite are for a gyu who hates doing set ups and neck tweeks and always wants a guitar that will play good and consistant) I owned an Ibanez RG1620x that would play great for a while, then I would have trouble keeping the neck steady as it was so thin and where I live, we go from -30 in winter to +35 in summer with TONS of humidity.....



Either way, the search goes on, and I enjoy chatting with others about their opinions and such. If im starting to repeat myself and sound like a broken record, just let me know as my persistance can be annoying.

When you dont make much loot, you have to be anal

[RacerX]

No matter how gorgeous they were he found a flaw and tortured himself with it. Then, when he ran them off, he decided he could've lived with it.

I've just seen you go through so many guitars, and the common factor seems to be that you build a guitar up in your head, then within days or a couple of weeks of having it, you're selling it. I don't think you give yourself time to get used to anything. If it's not the nirvana you expected on first touch, it's out the door.

He ain't the only one around here.....

[lerxstcat]

Lol, Lex, very truthful, and I couldnt agree more with you. Ive lost more money seeking for these "perfect" guitars then I care to think about. Mindj you, it's only 25+ in 6 years or so, but in that time I've come to my ideals...

24 frets, neck-thru, stainless steel frets, solid oiled neck (preferable with graphite inserts as they DO help in my heavily changing environment) and a thicker wider neck. Im not overly picky about Floyds and such, and the worst part....... Is that I cant afford to own a lot of guitars that can offer me the selection of what I feel like. Granted the search is fun and I enjoy trading and there is no excitement like opening up a new guitar package, i hate to think of all the time ive wasted guitar buying and selling when I could have been recording. Lately I have had great feedback on my recordings and Ive gotten better, but im still nagged by that search for the holy-grail.(ss frets and the graphite are for a gyu who hates doing set ups and neck tweeks and always wants a guitar that will play good and consistant) I owned an Ibanez RG1620x that would play great for a while, then I would have trouble keeping the neck steady as it was so thin and where I live, we go from -30 in winter to +35 in summer with TONS of humidity.....



Either way, the search goes on, and I enjoy chatting with others about their opinions and such. If im starting to repeat myself and sound like a broken record, just let me know as my persistance can be annoying.

When you dont make much loot, you have to be anal

Hey, it doesn't bother me per se, I just hate seeing you torture yourself! I guess I just have a little different POV, that makes my life easier.

I see a guitar, and they are like persons to me. I think, "What can this guitar offer me?" and sit down to "converse" with it. Some are more interesting to me than others, but I find many different guitars have something to offer. I will adjust to that guitar, rather than have to have a guitar adjusted to me. You find that you like things you might have thought you wouldn't, at least in certain applications. It's also like having more than one "friend", so to speak. There doesn't have to be only one, Highlander notwithstanding!

[RacerX]

it's only 25+ in 6 years or so,

ONLY?

That's one every 12 weeks!