Question About Kramers

[CharvelRocker]

I'd figure I'd first here to see if anyone knows. I was looking at a Kramer at a local shop for about $500. I know its a Music-Yo Kramer as it has 2 Quad Rail pickups. However its a neck through body. Like wise it has a a Firenird-like reverse headstock, with Gotoh tuners. It has what appears to be the Floyd Rose copy you fidn on current music-yo Kramers. Its router H-H, It just has 1 volume pot and 1 tone put, with a Gibson style 3 way switch. Its all black, with 22 frets. Anyone here know about it?

[MountainDog]

If its anything like this one from ebay, $500 is way too much:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180059036338

or this one (which was BIN @ $400):

http://cgi.ebay.com/Kramer-Neck-Thru-Baretta-Excellent-Condition_W0QQitemZ220059019270QQihZ012QQcategoryZ41438QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

In the past I've seen these for $250-$300. Most people complain about the sound of these pickups.

[CharvelRocker]

Thanks. Odd. The pickups were really awesome sounding. Output wise on an overdrive channel they were equal to EMGs. Also the difference was its a Firebird like reverse head. It also has black "speed-style" knobs. Hmm. Anyone know of a good Kramer board I could post my question on?

[MountainDog]

http://www.kramerforum.com/forum/

[adoxtater]

Yeah I wouldn't pay $500 for a Yo, but that's just me. You can snag a vintage Kramer for the same price and have a much nicer axe IMO.

Hey MountainDog, I just noticed your locale is Simi Valley. I was born there

[toejam]

Thanks. Odd. The pickups were really awesome sounding. Output wise on an overdrive channel they were equal to EMGs.

I think those pups are pretty smooth sounding, have a decent amount of gain, but they're not quite equal to EMGs. I've got their Explorer model (Imperial) and I dig it a lot, the licensed Floyd looks exactly like a Schaller, stays in tune great, and I only paid $169 for it on www.musicyo.com.

[CharvelRocker]

I think those pups are pretty smooth sounding, have a decent amount of gain, but they're not quite equal to EMGs. I've got their Explorer model (Imperial) and I dig it a lot, the licensed Floyd looks exactly like a Schaller, stays in tune great, and I only paid $169 for it on www.musicyo.com.

I was actually looking to buy a MusicYo for the pickups. Too bad you cant get the Imperial as of now, I was really ready to buy on. I was looking at a Vanguard FR or Striker FR. And if I don't liek the guitar I can always put the pickups in something else

[toejam]

Hmm, they must have just sold out of the Imperials recently. Damn! They used to sell the pickups separately, too.

[Nuclear Vampire]

Yeah they ran out. I want one bad too. That price can't be beat. As soon as they get 'em back in stock, I'm getting one.

[CharvelRocker]

Yeah they ran out. I want one bad too. That price can't be beat. As soon as they get 'em back in stock, I'm getting one.

Indeed. Can't be worse than that Hondo exploer

[CharvelRocker]

As a follow up, I'm also positive this is some kind of Music-Yo era Beretta variant. Now heres hoping I can make a good offer

[chrisolson]

They called that guitar a Baretta as well (don't know why), but they were retailing new in places like Mars (RIP) for right around $400.

[markD]

that was the first kramer the gibson brought out. i believe it is pre-music yo. they were for sale at MARS, and i saw some at sam's club once....

i'd pass on it....

[lerxstcat]

I would much rather get a used MusicYo Baretta of the Explorer headstock, 24-fret variety, which you can get on Ebay for $200-$250 pretty easily. That would be much nicer to have than that fugly thing with the shitty headstock.

But if YOU like it, go for it!

[slash]

Here is one that I sold a few years ago. I think that I sold it for around $300-$400 with case.

http://www.slashware.com/guitar/2005baretta.htm