Ethan - you know exactly what I'm talking about! Those things kick ass!
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my 02 white Gibson V is kickass. the $1200 price point is worth it for the instrument I got. the paint is clean and the fretwork is 100%. it has mojo and I love it.
nice low action, the lowest of any of my guitars. to me that says quality.
guess I got lucky. maybe it's something more with the Les Pauls too, you see more complaints about those, and with the 2x+ higher price point, perhaps rightfully so.the guitar players look damaged - they've been outcasts all their lives
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Originally posted by hippietim View PostSomeone please tell me where all these shitty Gibsons are? I walk into GC and pick up Gibsons all the time that are very nice.
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Originally posted by Ralph E. View PostI have to agree with Tim, I have a '03 R8 and a '03 Deluxe and they are both really nice guitars. There are zero quality issues with either of them.
I want REAL change. I want dead bodies littering the capitol.
- Newc
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Originally posted by hippietim View PostYou have a Deluxe?!? Like with mini-humbuckers?!? If so, you don't want it anymore. Instead of the Deluxe, I'm sure you would be much happier with one of these fine items instead:
http://www.jcfonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66728
and yes, it's got the mini-humbuckers. I got it from musicians friend a few years back.
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I haven't seen all these crappy Gibsons people are ranting about either. I go into my local gibson dealer, or other gibson dealers when I am travelling and find lots of really good examples. I have found some issues on the odd 1 or 2, but nothing any more glaring then what I find on Jacksons, Deans, Ibanez or Fenders that I try out as well. Maybe I am not looking closely enough, but soundwise and playability are almost always good. I do agree that the marketing side of the company is pretty weak as is the way they treat the dealers, but then I can ignore that.
chuck"Those who know what's best for us, must rise and save us from ourselves!"
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Originally posted by Jeff Albertson View PostI have to say that I think it all balances out. I just ordered two SC-250's and a new Tremoniti. The ones with the brazillian boards were no more than a LP Custom or Supreme. I think right now it's the best money you can spend right now. Hands down.
For as long as I can remember I've been partial to C/J and Gibson...but things are changing. When you buck up $3K for a hunk of wood it's needs to be done right, every part, every time. I don't know what Gibson is thinking...maybe "cash-in ASAP" before the market turns? C/J has been cranking prices untill they break the market...I hear it cracking now.
I think all these companies see people spending big dollars on guitars and they think they can just keep jacking up prices on the same old crap and we'll buy......that ain't how it works. PRS is the only one earning the cash there asking for.
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even so, if one puts his/her lemon on eBay, they will get back most of the money. There are too many people unaware of the crap gibson is selling as long as they can show off to their friends..."this is a real gibson. just like what Jimmy page has".
A very wise saying I must quote... "never under-estimate the power of idiots in large numbers"Sam
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even so, if one puts his/her lemon on eBay, they will get back most of the money. There are too many people unaware of the crap gibson is selling as long as they can show off to their friends..."this is a real gibson. just like what Jimmy page has".
A very wise saying I must quote... "never under-estimate the power of idiots in large numbers"
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Originally posted by eakinj View PostThis is going to sound really bad.. but if you want a les paul try some of the Epiphone customs. I have one and they thing is perfect. I think the import shops are still keeping up with standards where as the US stuff they just let slide now. they'll sound a bit different but they are good guitars (and a decent substitue until you find a good US model (probably used)
I was thinking the same thing...ive played 3 Zakks (roughly $650)
and they played great! I will check out out some of these plus $2200
Gibsons next week and report back. Heck Bizarre has em from $1699
to $7K! Wonder if that "Page" plays like crap?? I doubt it
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