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  • Very Intersting....Gibson "redesigns" the Les Paul

    Gee, I guess this would have to qualify as a continuation of the last "slap fight". 2007 and on...USA Les Pauls will be "hollow". Apparently, they have found a better construction method. So this must mean that the old standard solid body design was inferior? How could this be...there was something wrong with the Les Paul? No that just can't be! It can and has improved. Ahh...yep. That's what Gibson says. I say that they're proving my point. What a joke. I cannot belive people defend this company. I've played about five of them...they sound like absolute crap. Personally, i think it's just a cover up so they can keep using C stock "heavy ass" mahogonny, but ahhh...don't take my word for it try one for yourself..HAHAHAAAA HAHAAA

    Sweet...I'm glad my shit is "in print", I called it months...no years ago.
    " The weight relief pattern has changed for 2007. We have modified the original swiss cheese hole pattern to something that has a purpose other than to lighten up the guitar. Originally, the holes were cut in a pattern that maximized the available space and did not take into consideration tone, balance, and sustain. So, we felt that a scientific approach was best if we were to change the pattern. We knew that we could now measure frequency output of the guitar and also determine positive or negative effects of any changes to the internal routing. So, we initially approached the project from the perspective of just improving the placement of the original holes. As we began testing, we noticed that when we moved the holes closer together, sound and sustain improved. We then decided to try moving the holes so close together that they actually created one big hole instead of several small ones. The area volume was the same but the improvement of sustain and output was greater. This drove us to start playing with the actual shape and size of a single large chamber and then to multiple chambers, strategically placed inside the guitar. We couldn’t do much with the control pockets and pickup pockets so we decided to focus on all of the mass and area around those routings. After several months of testing, the current sonic tuning pattern emerged. This pattern works in all Les Pauls and gives us a much better sounding instrument, sustain is improved, and as an added benefit, weight has been reduced by 20%-30%. Sustain can be improved two ways; by creating rigidity and by sound reverberation. While reducing weight further wasn’t our goal, it definitely should be received as a positive side affect to our real goal; giving reason to our original weight relief pattern of holes.


    Regards,
    *Some Chump*
    Gibson Customer Service
    [email protected] "

  • #2
    Now if they could come up with a "price relief pattern."
    please don't put it into words, 'cause I fear what you're thinking

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    • #3
      Originally posted by necrotechno View Post
      Now if they could come up with a "price relief pattern."
      750xl, 88LE, AT1, Roswell Pro, SG-X, 4 others...
      Stilletto Duece 1/2 Stack, MkIII Mini-Stack, J-Station, 12 spaces of misc rack stuff, Sonar 4, Event 20/20, misc outboard stuff...

      Why do I still want MORE?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by necrotechno View Post
        Now if they could come up with a "price relief pattern."
        No way. You know how it works. Now that they're using less wood, you shell out more money for the empty real estate.
        My Toys:
        '94 Dinky Rev. Purple Burst Flame Top
        '94 Dinky Rev. Cherry Burst Flame Top
        '94 Dinky Rev. Purple Burst Quilt Top
        '94 Dinky HX in Black
        '12 ESP Mii NTB in Black

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        • #5
          Fucking ridiculous.
          I'm gonna eat your brains and gain your knowledge.

          http://cdwillis.blogspot.com/

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          • #6
            Are they re-inventing the semi-hollow body?

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            • #7
              Have all lp's always been routed out hollow underneath? I am confusd now. I thought it was jsut certain models.

              Someone will have to pay for the technology and the lab testing, engineering.... etc. That will be the reason for the price rise.. lol.

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              • #8
                I'll keep my 1977 , thank you (as inferior as it may be).
                They are ass clowns...

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                • #9
                  This isn't even ridiculous.
                  I wish my hair-color was EDS :/

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by AdRock View Post
                    No way. You know how it works. Now that they're using less wood, you shell out more money for the empty real estate.
                    "There is nothing more fearful than imagination without taste" - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

                    "To be stupid, selfish and have good health are three requirements for happiness, though if stupidity is lacking, all is lost" - Gustave Flaubert

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                    • #11
                      I knew this was coming. Further proof that Gibson deserves money from no one...
                      I'm angry because you're stupid

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                      • #12
                        I'll be the LAST person to defend Gibson, but I have a Frampton Model Les Paul that's chambered, and I actually prefer it's tone over my "solid" Les Pauls.
                        But of course this has nothing to do with tone and everything to do about using less wood for more money. Bastids!

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                        • #13
                          I was reading up on this on the LPF. The funniest post was a dude that bought a 2007 Standard with this monstrosity of a route in it. Something had got in the route and was causing all kinds of rattle in there by bouncing around and whatnot. Priceless...
                          I'm angry because you're stupid

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                          • #14
                            I prefer the older L.Ps anyway.
                            Really? well screw Mark Twain.

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                            • #15
                              Weight relief is for gurls.
                              Sleep!!, That's where I'm a viking!!

                              http://www.myspace.com/grindhouseadtheband

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