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  • #16
    Originally posted by Blazer View Post
    But it doesn't say where Alfred Dronge learned his craft does it? In the "Ultimate guitar book" it was stated that Dronge and the others that founded the Guild guitar company worked for Epiphone before the company was sold to Gibson. You can see it in their earliest models.


    This is a fifties Epiphone emperor regent.


    This is a Guild Stratford. I guess the resemblance says everything here.

    Dronge never worked for Epiphone dude. You're just digging yourself deeper...
    and i quote...

    "The Guild Guitar line was founded as a quality alternative to the Gibson-Epiphone merger. Alfred Dronge, a professional guitarist and music store owner, and George Mann, a one-time Epiphone exec, formed a partnership and registered the Guild name in October of 1952."
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    • #17
      If a guitar resembles another one, does that mean Paul Reed Smith used to work for Gibson?................

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Snoogans View Post
        You'll have to go a long way to out-fugly the Gibson MIII!
        This Gibson (that I've never soon b4) look a LOT like Glen Tiptons Hammer don't you think?
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        • #19
          Originally posted by El Chiguete View Post
          This Gibson (that I've never soon b4) look a LOT like Glen Tiptons Hammer don't you think?
          See the blue Hamer Phantom I posted above, they do have a similar shape.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Snoogans View Post
            You'll have to go a long way to out-fugly the Gibson MIII!
            In 1993/94 they started to make them without that horrible pickguard

            To me it pretty cool looking. I owned one for a while and enjoyed it much.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Superfly View Post
              Dronge never worked for Epiphone dude. You're just digging yourself deeper...
              and i quote...

              "The Guild Guitar line was founded as a quality alternative to the Gibson-Epiphone merger. Alfred Dronge, a professional guitarist and music store owner, and George Mann, a one-time Epiphone exec, formed a partnership and registered the Guild name in October of 1952."
              There you go, you actuallly confirmed what I was stating. Maybe it wasn't Dronge himself who came from Epiphone but I said in my post that Guild was founded by former Epiphone people and you actually confirmed it for me.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Accept2 View Post
                I had one of the Epi ones, I think it was called an EM-2 Rebel. I thought it was a POS.............

                Yeah the Epiphone versions sucked,which isn't really all that suprising.
                The Gibsons however were a whole different thing. Great guitars.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by fuel0707 View Post
                  It was the either the very late '80's or the early '90's. I remember an issue of "Guitar Player" around '90 that did a comparison of super strats for under a grand and they had the Epiphone version of the M-III in the shootout.

                  Regardless of how well they may have played or sounded, I don't think they caught on very well. I've only seen a few of the Epi versions and maybe only one or two of the Gibson version.

                  I remember that issue. I've been looking for a back issue of it. Peavey
                  had a guitar in the shootout that was kind of a Gibsonesque double
                  cutaway. I played one at Daddy's music in Boston. That was a real nice
                  guitar. I can't remember the name of that model for the life of me. I'd
                  love to grab one those for sure.

                  If I remember correctly the issue was "The best solidbody electrics for
                  $750 and under" They reviewed 15 or 20 guitars. I belive the top three
                  were Carvin DC-127,Gibson MIII (they reviewed both versions) and the
                  Peavey guitar.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by uberthrall View Post
                    Yeah the Epiphone versions sucked,which isn't really all that suprising.
                    The Gibsons however were a whole different thing. Great guitars.
                    Nowadays Gibson adressed Epiphone's quality issues, the current Day Epi's are much better than the ones from say ten years ago.

                    Anyway, Gibson apparently decided to give the M3 another try with a new Epi built version...


                    With their quality issues solved, this should be a really good guitar but still I won't buy it because I didn't like the shape in the first place.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Blazer View Post
                      There you go, you actuallly confirmed what I was stating. Maybe it wasn't Dronge himself who came from Epiphone but I said in my post that Guild was founded by former Epiphone people and you actually confirmed it for me.

                      You're quote from a previous post...

                      "But it doesn't say where Alfred Dronge learned his craft does it? In the "Ultimate guitar book" it was stated that Dronge and the others that founded the Guild guitar company worked for Epiphone before the company was sold to Gibson. You can see it in their earliest models."
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Blazer View Post
                        Nowadays Gibson adressed Epiphone's quality issues, the current Day Epi's are much better than the ones from say ten years ago.

                        Anyway, Gibson apparently decided to give the M3 another try with a new Epi built version...


                        With their quality issues solved, this should be a really good guitar but still I won't buy it because I didn't like the shape in the first place.
                        Yeah it's most likely better than the 90s Epi but I wont buy it either.
                        I really like the body style but it's not the same without the maple neck
                        and the Floyd. I also doubt this one has the same wiring scheme. Also
                        I doubt it has the set neck the Gibby had.

                        The Gibson had a double 5 way pup selector scheme. As I remember it
                        was activated via a mini toggle. What I liked in particular was position
                        5 in the 2nd set..........a killswitch,really cool.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by uberthrall View Post
                          The Gibson had a double 5 way pup selector scheme. As I remember it
                          was activated via a mini toggle. What I liked in particular was position
                          5 in the 2nd set..........a killswitch,really cool.
                          The idea of switching between S-S-S wiring and say extended H-H wiring was kinda cool. But as long as my fav clean tones are positions 2 and 4 on S-S-S scheme, I found switching to it and back pretty annoying in live situation. I mean having to use mini toggle and then blade while stomping on pedal/footswitch and playing is too much hassle. So I ended up rewiring my axe to standard H-S-H scheme with mini toggle bypassed.
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                          • #28


                            The strap and the couch help a little??
                            Last edited by j4vice; 11-10-2007, 03:01 PM.
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                            • #29
                              Fender Performer

                              Without the pickguard, the terrible headstock and the oddly shaped pickups, it might have actually turned out a pretty cool guitar.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by silentcrescendo View Post
                                Fender Performer

                                Without the pickguard, the terrible headstock and the oddly shaped pickups, it might have actually turned out a pretty cool guitar.

                                I love the headstock on that. and the horns are awesome.
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