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  • #46
    Originally posted by shreddermon View Post
    I think you're a very decent dude.
    Aww!
    http://www.jacknapalm.com/

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    • #47
      Can you feel the love? The windows are getting foggy in here.
      I feel my soul go cold... only the dead are smiling.

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      • #48
        Keep your homo-erotic fantasies to yourselves, ya' fruitcakes. :ROTF:

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        • #49
          Originally posted by shreddermon View Post
          As opposed to taking someone else's statements as fact.
          I never said it was a fact. All I said is that John Suhr says they're good bridges and that coming from him that means a lot.

          Originally posted by shreddermon View Post
          I think you're a very decent dude.
          I want REAL change. I want dead bodies littering the capitol.

          - Newc

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          • #50
            there also could be other business related reasoning for dropping the floyd...bottom line I'm sure a lot of it had to do with costs.

            I will say this, as a guy who has purchased maybe 15-20 brand spanking new OFR's the last year or 2 the quality is not what it once was. Older units are better. There is some validity in the QC issues I can can say for sure from my experience. Also I grabbed a BC Rich Mockingbird ST (made in Korea) and it has the OFR. So if cheap imports are going OFR maybe its because they (Schaller) cut some corners in the mgf process ans use chraper metals -or- BC Rich hlistens to its customers and figured they'd give them what they wanted in a tremolo fiddle and went with OFR??

            basswood is my least favorite body wood but I've had some that were great sounding bodies. Builders like Suhr and Anderson used different woods than a lot but their guitars are GREAT so they know how to make it work and pick good wods.

            The prices are not too far out there...hell everything is getting up there in price. People have to do comparisons in quality in the higher end prices befroe plunking down the $$$. Look at the new Charvel prices...in those price ranges for my dollars... Charvel cannot compete with the quality levels of Anderson and Suhr.
            Last edited by Shawn Lutz; 10-14-2007, 08:36 AM.
            shawnlutz.com

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            • #51
              Pretty pricey for a guitar with a licensed Floyd.
              Why did they drop the OFR?
              A luthier once told me that the Gotoh's he had were really superb.

              On the other hand along with my other luthier i can only agree that licensed doesn't neccesarily equal "no good" - imho Schaller's are superior to OFR (Construction wise - thicker baseplate etc. ) What a damn pity that Schaller doesn't make a 7 string version.

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              • #52
                I had a talk with the Schaller guys some 10 years ago when the floyd was really out of flavour and they told me that they did not invest in the tooling of manufacturing the OFR anymore as the demand was to little (distribution was done by Fender at time which basically meant you could not get one if there was not a fenderguitar attached to it)
                The licensed schaller was still somewhat in demand as companies like Vigier, Lag, Jackson, Hamer and ESP still supplied guitars with the Schaller attached and therefore the tooling was being maintained and even upgraded.
                I collect floyds from every year and there really is a difference in quality, parts which don't fit as well as they used to on earlier versions, some softer steel being used, nothing shocking which cannot be "repaired" but for a big company it can be a nuissance if you have to do this with every guitar
                I still prefer the look of a floyd over a gotoh but I could live with either of them

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Shawn Lutz View Post

                  basswood is my least favorite body wood but I've had some that were great sounding bodies. Builders like Suhr and Anderson used different woods than a lot but their guitars are GREAT so they know how to make it work and pick good wods.

                  The prices are not too far out there...hell everything is getting up there in price. People have to do comparisons in quality in the higher end prices befroe plunking down the $$$. Look at the new Charvel prices...in those price ranges for my dollars... Charvel cannot compete with the quality levels of Anderson and Suhr.
                  Really good points. There are good-sounding guitars made from every body wood combination imagineable. The only problem is having the time and cash to sort through them all to find what you want!

                  Whatever wood they choose, both Suhr and Anderson know what they are doing and make great guitars.

                  Really, prices for high-end USA guitars are all getting up there and they're basically comparable these days. So if you want to spend the cash, you have to do your homework and decide what's best for you.
                  GM,
                  www.aftershok.com

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                  • #54
                    Ok... so moving onto the next subject at hand. Suhr is working on a 24 fret prototype right now that they'll be showing at NAMM and could start taking orders on before then.
                    Special deals for JCF members on Jackson/Charvel, Suhr, Anderson, Nash, Splawn, Bogner, LSL, Ibanez, Diezel, Friedman, Bad Cat, 3rd Power, Dr. Z, ENGL and more. FREE SHIPPING! 0% FINANCING!

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                    • #55
                      Those are gonna be very interesting to finally get a look at. I´m kinda wondering which route they´re gonna take with them, since the Standards are modern enough already (with sleeker bodies and contoured heels) and the 24-fretters obviously are a reworked design. I suppose the most readily apparent stratagy is forging ahead into Dinky and RG territory.

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                      • #56
                        yeah...looking forward to the 24 fretters although I have no prob with 22 fretters
                        shawnlutz.com

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                        • #57
                          Yeah, the 24´s are gonna have to be something really special for me to ditch my plans for a regular 22 Pro with a Floyd... since I´ve got enough hot shred machines and instead am jonesing for something more in the modern classic vein nowadays.

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                          • #58
                            From what I have heard, they are doing the prototypes right now and that the 24-fret model is a new design to properly address details such as fret access, pickup placement, etc.

                            I had to venture a guess, I would say that it would be a very slightly modified Standard, and probably more in the tooling details than anything.
                            GM,
                            www.aftershok.com

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                            • #59
                              Glad they dropped the OFR because I've stated before it is antiquated (do I need to dig up the pic of the first Floyd again?), but it looks like I'll have to still wait for the EdgePro equipped Suhr :P :P :P


                              Anyways, this NAMM 2008 model sounds promising.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by mattsmusiccenter View Post
                                Have you played a Suhr?
                                Have you played a Bernie Rico Jr.?

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