Nightswan Reissue?

[Trypp Powell]

There was talk some time ago about MusicYo reissuing the Nightswan. I seem to recall seeing a picture of a prototype for the reissue floating around the net. Has anyone heard anything about the likelihood of a Nightswan reissue actually happening?

[cdwillis]

I haven't, but I wouldn't be surprised if they did after how well the 1984 reissues did.

[Flatpicker]

What I had heard, and it's old news, was that the NS was placed on the back burner while the Baretta (85) reissues were created. Then they were eventually scrapped or perm delayed due to there being not enough dealers willing to take on the line.

If you look at the Yo site, almost everything there is unavailable lately.

[eakinj]

Not that it'll do any good or even provide any answers, I just e-mailed music yo about this. In the past they have actually been pretty good and giving me answers so we'll see. I basically asked if it is or ever been in developement, if it's still going to happen and when, and if it isn't how much e-mail and nagging is it going to take to get them to do it anyway. I really like the new Kramers, so I am hoping they respond.

Flatpicker, I know that they have some authorized dealers on the kramerguitars.com page, but the ones I have been able to look up web sites on don't mention kramers at all. I'm guessing they are at the mercy of whomever makes them in Korea just as the music yo page is

[eakinj]

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[Jason1212]

On Hill Guitars web site he states that he is making the 85 Barettas. Shoot him an email maybe he has an inside track on the NS.

[Mr Metal]

People at www.vintagekramer.com or at www.kramermaniaxe.com (Mike Mojabi) may have info on this as well . I just tried and could not get to the www.kramermaniaxe.com site (got a solid blue webpage!).

I'd be very interested in getting a Nightswan reissue myself.

I wonder if doing a nightswan would mean that Kramer would need to bring Buddy Blaze back (Buddy created the original Nightswan before the design was purchased by Kramer, and he was hired by Kramer to head up their R&D). Buddy has his own brand now and builds guitars that are similar to Nightswan but not identical in pickup placement or headstock design. These pop up on ebay brand new for about $2k to $3k depending on finish and hardware, but I'd really want one that's branded Kramer, has the Nightswan emblem on the headstock, and has the bridge and middle humbuckers. Finishes to die for (at least for me) would be the lightening, the polka dots (various color combinations), the Aztec, and the holoflash

[Mr Metal]

Here is a thread also:

http://www.kramerforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18936

[lynchfan6]

People at www.vintagekramer.com or at www.kramermaniaxe.com (Mike Mojabi) may have info on this as well . I just tried and could not get to the www.kramermaniaxe.com site (got a solid blue webpage!).

I'd be very interested in getting a Nightswan reissue myself.

I wonder if doing a nightswan would mean that Kramer would need to bring Buddy Blaze back (Buddy created the original Nightswan before the design was purchased by Kramer, and he was hired by Kramer to head up their R&D). Buddy has his own brand now and builds guitars that are similar to Nightswan but not identical in pickup placement or headstock design. These pop up on ebay brand new for about $2k to $3k depending on finish and hardware, but I'd really want one that's branded Kramer, has the Nightswan emblem on the headstock, and has the bridge and middle humbuckers. Finishes to die for (at least for me) would be the lightening, the polka dots (various color combinations), the Aztec, and the holoflash

Why a reissue? Just look for a real swan. I got mine back in 2002.......in stellar condition, and I think I only paid like $650. Mine is sparkle blue, but I have seen aztecs, lightnings, etc on ebay. Also, the guy at GMWguitar works is supposed to do amazing finishes. He sent me some pictures of the lightning graphics he can do from when I was considering getting such a finish on my swan. But I decided to keep it original.

[Mr Metal]

Why a reissue? Just look for a real swan. I got mine back in 2002.......in stellar condition, and I think I only paid like $650. Mine is sparkle blue, but I have seen aztecs, lightnings, etc on ebay. Also, the guy at GMWguitar works is supposed to do amazing finishes. He sent me some pictures of the lightning graphics he can do from when I was considering getting such a finish on my swan. But I decided to keep it original.

Hi Lynchfan6! Have you seen the prices on ebay lately? The last two Lightnings each went for $1500-plus, and they weren't mint! Most original Nightswans with graphic have finish cracking problems, and you rarely find any clean ones. They're mostly quite worn (for good reason)

[eakinj]

I got an email back, it's on hold and probably not happening, but a new pacer is supposed to be out next year so don't hold your breath on a nightswan

[toejam]

Flatpicker, I know that they have some authorized dealers on the kramerguitars.com page, but the ones I have been able to look up web sites on don't mention kramers at all. I'm guessing they are at the mercy of whomever makes them in Korea just as the music yo page is

What Kramers are made in Korea? The sticker on the back of my Imperial says Made In Indonesia.

[xbolt]

Love the swans and swan-like...lot's of options out there...

[Mr Metal]

What Kramers are made in Korea? The sticker on the back of my Imperial says Made In Indonesia.

Pre-Gibson or post-Gibson? Most post-Gibson Music-Yo stuff has been from Korea. Even on the USA Series the parts I believe came from Korea and they assembled in the US. Now we hear that Hill guitars is making the 1985 so this might be something new. Regarding the old stuff, I've heard the ones called American on the headstock were assembled in the US using ESP made Japanese parts...........Not sure about the other stuff but I know there was a mix of USA-made, Japanese (ESP??), and Korean models. I have also heard that while the original Nightswan was built in the USA, there was a Japan-built version of it for the Japanese market too!

[Trypp Powell]

Man, I never cared for the Pacers, but I understand that they are only going to produce what they think will sell.

There was someone offering a Nightswan style body for sale, but I can't remember the website.