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Looks about the same.
If I can find a pic from the forum I'll email it to you. PM me with your email.
If I can find a pic from the forum I'll email it to you. PM me with your email.
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I think they've been doing that for a lot longer. Maybe they just became more common last year. I remember reading this on the LP forum that other people have seen this going back at least 10 years or more. Though, it seems it's not in all guitars. I don't remember my faded LP Studio having the anchor when I put a leather DiMarzio cliplock strap on it. I think my guitar is either an '04 or '05, I can't remember.Originally posted by Flatpicker View PostI feel my soul go cold... only the dead are smiling.Comment
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This is the correct answer. After Henry took over, anything that was a second was scrapped.Originally posted by Rupe View PostComment
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That looks like shit. Don't have that on my 2 SG's or 4 LP's. My newest LP is a 2004 R0, however.Originally posted by CharvelRocker View PostWaiting for my account to be approved on LP Forum so I can search for it... I'm not sure I buy that though, as if it was a plastic anchor, would it have not come apart when I turned the screw, leaving a few tiny bits of plastic around. this came out pretty cleanly for the most part, and won't budge at all.
EDIT: For the record, mine was completed almost midway through the year on June 6th, 2007.
EDIT 2:Here is a picture of the hole in question.
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Thats interesting, as mine is in the Faded series.. sent them another email asking some specifics, so I'll see what I get back from them. Asked them if they have pictures of it from the factory, what models it was done on, and when they started doing it.Originally posted by toejam View PostComment
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found that blue thing in my Melody Maker when i was putting the strap on it...but really, it was a $100 guitar and its awesome, who gives a shit if they put a stopper in to keep the strap pin in tighter?Comment
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I'm still not sure about this. I think I'm going to call a friend who is also a long time guitar tech and see what he says. The thing that concerns me is the fact from what I've heard on here, there is no consistency to it, which is what has my interest peaked. That and my email was replied to with a single line they have been doing it for years, which is a very vague answer to only one of my questions. That and the fact it didn't feel or behave like plastic; normally when you take a screw out of plastic, a tiny bit of it strips leaving pieces on the screw; this one came clean.Comment
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Whats the issue? It's in your guitar, what do you expect Gibson to do?
Not to sound too harsh or anything but I doubt you'll get anywhere with Gibson. I don't really see any wrongdoing. So I guess I'm wondering what you'd like the outcome to be here...I'm angry because you're stupidComment
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I personally am just interested. If my guitar guy says its fairly common, I'm cool with it and its probably just a plastic anchor. The reason I'm a bit paranoid is Gibson's answer to my last email. Why provide it with a vague answer? And IF it is Loctite, I will HACKED to say the least, but I will see what GC's side of the story is. It would take a bet of detective work to pin who did if its the case, but the root of the matter is if it is Loctite, there was obviously something wrong with it that was fixed, and it was sold to me as new. It would be like buying a car, getting home, and opening the hood to see a sticker that says "REBUILT" on the engine.Originally posted by Bengal View PostComment
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Guitar Center will have no answers. And you might come off as a bit of a dick if you go in there asking why your guitar has this in it. I'm sure it was done in the factory. Why? They drilled the strap hole and the screw pulled out. That's what I think happened. So instead of scraping the whole guitar, or taking the time on that line to redowell the hole, they put one of those in there. No biggie really. Like I said in a previous post, we are not talking about a 5 thousand dollar 1958 Reissue Les Paul here. Faded V's are very, very low on the chain for Gibson...I'm angry because you're stupidComment
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Doesn't matter. If pay for a guitar that is sold to me as new and without defect, and I find it has a defect that was fixed, it was sold to me as something its not and that is illegal. $500 or $5000, it shouldn't matter; you sell something as brand new and without repairs/blems/defects, it should be brand new and without an repairs, blems, or defects. That having been said, I'll need to wait and see. If I call my guitar guy and he says he sees it a lot and its not Loctite, I'm cool with it.Originally posted by Bengal View PostComment
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Well, if Gibson did it, is it really a "defect"? I bet they say it's not. And since someone said this stuff has been talked about in the Les Paul Forum, it's well known. So I don't really think you'll get anyone to see it as a defect. Unless Guitar Center did it. But I bet they would not be willing to admit it. They would pass the buck to Gibson. But since it's been documented on the LPF, I doubt it's Guitar Center...
Heres an interesting story kind of along the same lines. I'll try to make it short. I bought in 1997 a Fender American Standard Strat in 3 Tone Sunburst. I wanted one in that finish for a long time. Well come to find out all the transparent Strats in that era were not Alder like the catalogue stated, but Poplar with a very thin Alder veneer over the top. The only way to know if yours was veneered was the back stomach cutaway. The solid colors are Poplar even though they stated they were Alder...
Needless to say, I was pretty pissed and contacted Fender about it and the place I bought it. The guy at the shop just scratched his head and didn't know what to do. Fender denied it. Said it wasn't happening. They were not doing it. Even though I found a site with pics of someone stripping the finish off a '96 Strat showing the veneer and the Poplar body. Fender denied it for a year or 2 then gave in. But it was small print in a catalogue somewhere that got them out of it. They never really admitted it but it's common knowledge. But I had no case at all...
Kinda the same thing. The dude that blew the whistle on Fender? Ed Roman. I actually talked to him on the phone about it in 1997. He was arrogant but he knew what he was talking about in that issue...
Oh he's a dick, don't get me wrong. But he was right in that case...I'm angry because you're stupidComment
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Just got off the phone with the repair guy (and who we as a family have done business with for 20 years) and he says he has never seen it, and doesn't buy into the anchor explanation. His advice was to put it back in the screw hole and see if it has any play in it. If it does, he advised I try to take out the Loctite, put a dowel in, and redrill. I don't think he's BSing me, as he has no reason to (especially since he just walked me through fixing it
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So by your theory, a brand new car coming off a car carrier at the dealer gets a scratch or dent. Or the car gets dinged on the lot. The dealer fixes it and then sells it as new. It is illegal? I think that happens more than we realise.Originally posted by CharvelRocker View PostScott
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I've been trying to find the pics at the LPF, but so far the place is dog slow.
The issue is addressed on page 2 of the X-ray BFG thread.
the link is;
I sent you a pic of the anchor they used.Last edited by Flatpicker; 02-08-2008, 11:49 AM.Build a man a fire and he's warm for a day, set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life.Comment
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