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  • An Interview with Rand Havener

    I've been in frequent contact with Rand Havener ever since he started producing guitars again and thought I would share some the things that we've talked about in an interview format. I have been asked many questions about his company and the guitars that I have frequently only been able to answer with speculation and second-hand info.

    For any of you who are interested in these guitars, continue on:

    1. So, what have you been doing since the first incarnation of the Rand Guitar Company?
    Oh, doing cnc & automated control stuff, Architectural Design, alot of other fairly diverse and unrelated pursuits

    2. How did you get your start building guitars?
    I got my start because there was nothing out there that i was really happy with. The beginning of it all is a somewhat involved story, but basically I played with some designs in L.A. but actually started building the first prototypes in NY I returned to California after that to open my shop.

    3. Your guitars were very cutting edge for their time, being one of the first to incorporate things such as recessed trems, scalloped cutaways, and 27 fret necks. How did you come up with these things that were fairly revolutionary at that time?
    It was really just integrating all of the things i wanted in a guitar.

    4. Where did you get the inspiration for those wild paint jobs?!
    At the time I was looking to do something that was not specifically graphics oriented (sculls, flames, horns, ect.) but also not a copy of some other paint jobs that were out there. I had tried some crazy paint on a couple of my more conventional Strat shaped prototypes. I showed one of them to Vivian Campbell and when he ordered his, he just pointed at it and said "I want that paint job but with yellow, blue and red". After that nobody was interested in any single colors. I did those paint jobs on every guitar I sold except the last run, which were to be solid black. At that time i only finished 2 of them, one went to a buddy of mine and one was for me.

    5. What was the theory behind your choice of woods and electronics for your instruments?
    I was using a Floyd Rose bridge so I now needed to do whatever I could to fatten up the sound. I tried a bunch of different woods. I found out that I needed a nice, medium density mahogany. It balances out the tone of the Floyd Rose. I chose a maple neck for stability and to keep some of the attack in the guitar. As far as fretboards are concerned,I didn't like the open grain of rosewood and the only redeeming quality of ebony is that its black. It's great for furniture though. Pau Ferro has good tonal characteristics and a tight, even grain. The bridge position humbuckers were custom wound to create a little more gain but still not be super aggressive. Neck position single coils were a custom low profile pickup wound to pair with the humbucker. They were wired humbucking with the rear coil of the bridge pickup, to give you that desirable "notch" position configuration that caused the invention of the 5 way switch. The
    selector switch selected between this and a straight humbucker. This is a simplification of my original three switch design.

    6. Were there any other builders who you looked up to or were inspired by? Any designs?
    No, but i have a lot of respect for Dave Schecter and Tom Anderson.

    7. What types of music were you listening to back then? How about now?
    I have always had a habit of trying to listen to something as different as possible from the last I listened to.

    8. How long was the Rand Guitar Company in business and how many guitars did you ultimately build during your first run?
    The shop was in actual production existence for maybe a year and a half. I think, during the first run, I produced about 80 guitars.

    9. Vivian Campbell was most likely the highest profile player of your instruments. Talk a little bit about that relationship.
    I met him through a friend. He liked the playability and the paint of the prototype and he was the first person I showed the pencil sketch to for what would ultimately be my standard model. He ordered it right off the paper . What was great about Vivian was that he had the balls to order a guitar from me based on a drawing and pay in full, without a current gig. (He had just left Dio).

    10. How did the relationship with the Misfits materialize?
    I met Doyle through a friend when I went to the east coast to build. I ended up building the prototypes at Doyle's with his help.

    11. What led you to walk away from the business back then?
    My demand so far exceeded my capacity to make them, it created a situation where a month at a time would go by before I could actually sit down and play a guitar. I think a week at a time would go by before I even went home. Bottom line, that is not why I got into building.

    12. Are there any builders to day who's work you like?
    See question 6

    13. What led to the comeback?
    The ideas were piling up on me and I felt motivated to do it again. I am changing my approach to it this time around so things don't get so overwhelming.

    14. Tell us a little bit about the NOS guitars.
    It felt like the best place to pick back up was where I left off. They are the balance of the last run from the original shop which was the "black run" of which only 2 got finished at that time. 2 have been finished since then (one is on my website) and the rest are the NOS.

    15. Will you be doing any instruments with the old style finishes?
    Sure if there is a demand.

    16. Do you have anything new on the horizon?
    Yes. New models of guitars of course and a bass coming.

    17. Do you plan to continue selling direct or eventually going with retailers?
    It's direct for now but if stores want guitars, I'll sell them guitars.

    18. What does a person need to do to get a new Rand Guitar?
    Feel free to contact us: www.randguitarcompany.com


    19. What would you like to see for yourself and your guitars moving forward?
    Quality for everybody, on both sides of the equation.


    20. Anything else you would like to say?
    Thanks to all you guys for collecting my stuff and the continued interest in Rand guitars. I am really looking forward to getting the new stuff out there

    The old:



    And the new:



  • #2
    I'll take it! Thanks for the article Rupe! I wonder when the limited will be released? I guess a call or email is in order.
    Tone is like Art: Your opinion is valid. Listen, learn, have fun, draw your own conclusions.

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    • #3
      Sweet. Thanks for posting that man!
      I'm angry because you're stupid

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      • #4
        great idea rupe! I enjoyed reading that

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        • #5
          Awesome stuff. I never knew about the final black run. Curious why he changed the color schemes? Perhaps the "witch/which" was the inspiration? It was originally orange but Rand painted over it in black due to a customers request.

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          • #6
            Cool, thanks for posting this!
            "Your work is ingenius…it’s quality work….and there are simply too many notes…that’s all, just cut a few, and it’ll be perfect."

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            • #7
              Great post Rupe!

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              • #8
                Hey Rupe,
                Are there any Production / Construction photos?
                I am really intrested in the way the neck joined the body on these.

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                • #9
                  Rupe any news from Rand?
                  How many NOS were produced?
                  The websight has not been updated so is Rand still making them?
                  I play mine everyday now.

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                  • #10
                    Pretty cool, Rupe! I would love to hear more about the Rands that JCFers have, like my purple V!!! Do you think you can get a hold of him & ask? Is Rand in California again?
                    If you recall my V has no logo on the headstock and I always wondered about having him put one on there. I bet my guitar would bring Rand some memories!
                    "Quiet, numbskulls, I'm broadcasting!" -Moe Howard, "Micro-Phonies" (1945)

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                    • #11
                      Nice revival!

                      Ron and others...let me know what types of questions you may have and I'll reach out to him. I'll see if he's willing to logo the V as well. Pictures are always cool.

                      I know your V was built for a friend of his and was used extensively as a live axe for some time. Tortfeaser knows more about this one I believe...perhaps he'll chime in.

                      Depending on Rand's answers, it may be time to do another Rand thread...I don't think there's been one this year

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                      • #12
                        I love the Rands. I barely missed the old one up in Albany, NY last winter. The dude emailed me back and I forgot to check my messages....damn I blew it.
                        Why the hell doesn't Eddie pick up a goddamned guitar and play something?


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                        • #13
                          Hey Rupe,
                          Here is my questions:
                          Are there any Production / Construction photos?
                          I am really intrested in the way the neck joined the body on these.
                          How many NOS were produced?
                          The websight has not been updated so is Rand still making them?
                          Thanks

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                          • #14
                            The neck joint is simply a long tenon set neck design, with the tenon extending through most of the body.
                            I'll ask him your other questions when I reach out.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Rupe View Post
                              I know your V was built for a friend of his and was used extensively as a live axe for some time. Tortfeaser knows more about this one I believe...perhaps he'll chime in.
                              The purple V is without a doubt a Rand. Rand sold it out of his car trunk to my friend back in 1987 in West Chester, PA. He gigged with it in his band Wild Child. In fact all three of his Rands were heavily used live. They should have the battle damage to show it (i.e. the black repainted which/witch guitar has an added floyd route, and I think the purple V may have had its headstock repaired after a Jeff LaBar guitar spin went wrong).

                              The purple V was dirt cheap at the time and probably sold for $500-750 brand new because he just couldn't move enough product. Funny how 20 years changes things. It's a prototype and therefore doesn't have a logo. You should keep it that way. I have a prototype with a logo but I need to confirm whether it was placed there by Rand or the original owner.

                              I don't have a picture handy to confirm this or not, but the purple V may have EMG pickups in it. He swapped all the pickups out on his Rands to EMGs. I remember the very first band practice that he used the purple V. I was awestruck back then as a seventeen year old kid. I remember he kept complaining about the stock pickup not having enough gain. We went upstairs to listen to some Vinnie Vincent Invasion and in the liner notes it said that Vinnie didn't use any outboard gear and EMG pickups. It was a no-brainer for us, the EMGs went in the Rands the next day.
                              Last edited by tortfeaser; 09-21-2009, 03:15 PM.

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