kramer deluxe what"s it worth.

[john.w.lawson]

I would like to know current value of the kramer pacer deluxe, org floyd, paint flawless,kramer hsc,ssh coil tap?

[metalchurch79]

Without seeing it, I'm gonna say atleast $600-800 in 8/10 condition, but thats a low price, it would probably bring a little more, depending whether someone wants one really bad, the condition of the guitar, and if it has an HSC.
Do you have any pictures, or are you looking to buy one?

[straycat]

It really depends on the year.The USA ones tend to go higher than the later ESP made ones.Still they are top shelf guitars so you can't go wrong with either.

[john.w.lawson]

i have it,looking to sell that"s why i needed to know. it"s 86/87-say"s american,but i think esp made the parts and then they just put them together here?[not a for sale post!,just for info]thanks.

[metalchurch79]

John, I remember that ESP did indeed make necks for Kramer, but I'm unsure of the year. As far as the bodies, I dont know that either. I used to be on the up and up with Kramers, but it's been a long time since I've messed with them.
The best advice that I can give you now is to check out the Kramer forum to better educate yourself so that you can price your guitar accordingly.

http://www.kramerforum.com/forum/

Best of luck
Joe

[john.w.lawson]

Been there,it"s like being on mar"s thank"s for your imput.

[jdr94]

here you go john.


BTW photobucket is free

hey is that the flash or is it white in the neckpocket? could be a refin

[john.w.lawson]

yes it is white! i did"nt notice it,until you said something?i thought it looked to good to be an eighties beater?i wonder if that matters in pricing it?thanks jd.

[jdr94]

i would think not having the original finish would bring the value down although its a nice color so it could go either way

[john.w.lawson]

dude you must have bionic eyes,yea sparkley blue just makes me quiver all over.

[metalchurch79]

Yes, not having the original finish would affect the price. Same as #'s matching muscle cars.
But if it's done nicely, it comes down to the eye of the beholder, and how badly they want it.
Still a fine looking guitar IMO.

JDR94, you're an eagle eye like me! I saw that but you beat me to it!

[nhspike]

that's a delicious specimen
bump the value up 100 at least for the maple neck

I love it

[john.w.lawson]

metal you have to be a mopar fan!f##k"n a numbers matching,would"nt matter to chevy or ford guy.but whats the bottom line in your opion?give me a place to start and i"ll go done from there,or get some striped overhaul"s and repaint it white with black stripes.

[metalchurch79]

I'm a Ford guy til death!
I'm gonna say no less than $400 or $500 since it is a repaint in an unoriginal color. Had it been in the original color it might be worth more.
But it has a Maple neck like pointed out earlier, so it has + and -.
You have the original Kramer case also?

Feels like the antique road show here!

[straycat]

If you have the OHSC you should be able to pull $400-$500.Nice guitars.
I talked with an old Kramer rep at the last guitar show I did and he said the Kramers are set to come back around price wise so it may be one to hold on to for a while.
I decided to keep my 87 stagemaster custom 1 and wait for the price to go up.
He did say the last USA kramers were around 82-83.