Honestly, what the difference between Gibson and Epiphone?

[atdguitars]

If we are going on the thought that less expensive guitars are imports and therefore less quality then that would make GIBSON, FENDER,JACKSON USA, WAYNE, SHUR, and many other USA guitars complete crap to anyone that doesn't live in the USA since they are all "imports" to any other country
I have embarrased more than one headstock snob in my shop by simply putting a sock over the headstocks of Gibsons, Epiphones, Fenders and others and telling them to play them without removing the sock. 99% of these so called self proclaimed experts at instantly distinguishing guitars simply by feel and tone can't tell the difference.

[zeegler]

sigh... sorry, no snobbery on my part...you have your head so far up your ass that i guess you cant comprehend anything written. i did not mention age, i am not sold on brand names, i choose to buy only quality items because i can afford them, which according to your posts...well i guess you have no concept of that. your epiphone cant top my standard, period. as for price= quality i dont know about the current situation but my 10 year old guitar which i only paid 2k for was FAR superior to anything that gibsons LOWER line put out then or now. so chill out, dont jump to conclusions just because your buddy jimbob said it was better, and btw i stand by my statement that you are secretly pining for a gibson and are just diverting attention from yourself with your histrionics.

Shut the fuck up already you annoying fucking Canadian.

[petez0r]

Good point. That snobbish retort of his just kinda got under my skin. Gets old hearing the same, old b.s. all the time, but when someone questions your knowledge, especially when it's based on an ASSUMPTION of age? well, that's just stupidity at it's finest. Second to that is assuming that a lesser-priced guitar couldn't POSSIBLY top a more expensive one. You guys that are so sold on brandname or the price=quality equation, you wanna keep living that scenario in your head? Great. I'll continue laughing at ya.

sigh... sorry, no snobbery on my part...you have your head so far up your ass that i guess you cant comprehend anything written. i did not mention age, i am not sold on brand names, i choose to buy only quality items because i can afford them, which according to your posts...well i guess you have no concept of that. your epiphone cant top my standard, period. as for price= quality i dont know about the current situation but my 10 year old guitar which i only paid 2k for was FAR superior to anything that gibsons LOWER line put out then or now. so chill out, dont jump to conclusions just because your buddy jimbob said it was better, and btw i stand by my statement that you are secretly pining for a gibson and are just diverting attention from yourself with your histrionics.

[PowerTube]

Kramer was quite smart in their American Series.. the neckplate simply states Kramer.. Neptune NJ..it didn't state made in. Its legaleze and deceptive as well.. most of the bodies were made across the street at the Sports shop that made duck decoys and the necks were made by ESP and Lado.

Exactly. It's like the Charvel Model series with the Fort Worth neckplates; even to this day, they deceive a lot of people.

[atdguitars]

yeah, but kramer did that in the 80's too....."american" models? ESP is more like it....

Kramer was quite smart in their American Series.. the neckplate simply states Kramer.. Neptune NJ..it didn't state made in. Its legaleze and deceptive as well.. most of the bodies were made across the street at the Sports shop that made duck decoys and the necks were made by ESP and Lado.

[markD]

yeah, but kramer did that in the 80's too....."american" models? ESP is more like it....

[atdguitars]

Wait till Gibson starts bringing in overseas parts through the back door from their "ugly step sister" Epiphone and do the final setup and logo here and stamp it USA like the automakers do in order to save a few more bucks on the bottom line and still charge you full price. They have done it with the new 'USA' Kramers and thought nothing of charging people a grand for nothing more than an import with a made in US sticker. If they are doing it on one brand they will do it on everything.
As others have said here buy what feels good and you can afford without eating Mac n Cheese for the rest of the month.

[john.w.lawson]

I buy generic Klonopin, but I buy GHS strings from Ebay. As far as I know, Walmart does not sell strings. I have several vehicles. I think one of them is about a 1960's, but it is a grain truck, so it does not count. I have had a 1970 Gibson Les Paul and it played FANTASTIC! In the 90's, I went into a guitar center and tried out some of the bare-bone, budget-minded Gibson Les Paul's. Their necks were different, their feel was totally different, and the sound was not that great. I still think an Ibby Les Paul is better than an Epi, plus you get a phaser switch with it. I have owned an Epi, though. Everybody needs something to break every now and then.

[SEEGERMANY]

I think you cats missed my point. That's OK. You buy your Epis and I'll continue to buy my Gibs. Hopefully, we'll both be happy.

[Flatpicker]

Does this mean that when you go to the grocery store, you buy all generic brands of food and generic brands of toothpaste, deodorant, drugs, etc? Do you wear Levi's, Faded Glory, Wranglers, or Lee's? Do you drive a Hyundai or a Kia? Do you buy your guitar strings at Wal-Mart or do you buy name brands such as D'Addario, Elixir, GHS, etc?

For the most part on the food and groceries, yes. I tend to shop Price Rite for that.

Generic Drugs if available, yes.

I drive a 10 year old Saturn with 178k miles on it.

Have worn the same pair of jeans for 5 years. When I wear them. I can't for work. They are LLBean because I won a Gift Cert at the office back then.

Don't shop Wal-Mart, but do by my guitar strings at bulk rates for 10-12 packs. Tend to go for the cheapest I can get.

So the only thing I really spend my money on are the guitars.

Gawd. I'm so Dull, I just bored myself.

[Racerx2k]

Does this mean that when you go to the grocery store, you buy all generic brands of food and generic brands of toothpaste, deodorant, drugs, etc? Do you wear Levi's, Faded Glory, Wranglers, or Lee's? Do you drive a Hyundai or a Kia? Do you buy your guitar strings at Wal-Mart or do you buy name brands such as D'Addario, Elixir, GHS, etc?

Let's see:

NO. Can't. My daughter has a dietary condition that dictates what we have to buy. Generic drugs, yes, when I can.

I wear what I can afford, usually Wranglers, cause they're cheap and I'm making my paycheck stretch.

I drive a Chevy. Forced into car payment because some bitch totalled my van.

I buy Ernie Ball. Either Super Slinky, or Hybrid Slinky, merely because they have been pretty reliable for me AND they are decently priced.


However, most of this is moot, since only the car costs over a grand. If this was 1970s or 80s, you MAY have a leg to stand on, as I still recall some of the god-awful cheaper guitars of those days. However, today's lower-priced lines are WAY better than most of those of decades past. I still shudder when I think of my brother's Harmony Les Paul copy!

[PowerTube]

Does this mean that when you go to the grocery store, you buy all generic brands of food and generic brands of toothpaste, deodorant, drugs, etc? Do you wear Levi's, Faded Glory, Wranglers, or Lee's? Do you drive a Hyundai or a Kia? Do you buy your guitar strings at Wal-Mart or do you buy name brands such as D'Addario, Elixir, GHS, etc?

If the name brand items are priced at 500% more than the generic versions, then I have to ask if the difference in feel, taste, effectiveness, etc... is worth it.

Probably not.

And besides, you also have to consider the working scale here; There's a bit of a difference between $5.00 for a tube of Crest as opposed to $3500.00 for a Gibson Les Paul.

[SEEGERMANY]

You guys that are so sold on brandname or the price=quality equation, you wanna keep living that scenario in your head? Great. I'll continue laughing at ya.

Does this mean that when you go to the grocery store, you buy all generic brands of food and generic brands of toothpaste, deodorant, drugs, etc? Do you wear Levi's, Faded Glory, Wranglers, or Lee's? Do you drive a Hyundai or a Kia? Do you buy your guitar strings at Wal-Mart or do you buy name brands such as D'Addario, Elixir, GHS, etc?

[Dred]

Good point. That snobbish retort of his just kinda got under my skin. Gets old hearing the same, old b.s. all the time, but when someone questions your knowledge, especially when it's based on an ASSUMPTION of age? well, that's just stupidity at it's finest. Second to that is assuming that a lesser-priced guitar couldn't POSSIBLY top a more expensive one. You guys that are so sold on brandname or the price=quality equation, you wanna keep living that scenario in your head? Great. I'll continue laughing at ya.

+1

Feel the same way, man.

[Racerx2k]

Don't feed the troll, dude.
Just makes them feel like they won some small victory.

Good point. That snobbish retort of his just kinda got under my skin. Gets old hearing the same, old b.s. all the time, but when someone questions your knowledge, especially when it's based on an ASSUMPTION of age? well, that's just stupidity at it's finest. Second to that is assuming that a lesser-priced guitar couldn't POSSIBLY top a more expensive one. You guys that are so sold on brandname or the price=quality equation, you wanna keep living that scenario in your head? Great. I'll continue laughing at ya.