Carvin releases new "old" guitar

[fullmetalguitar]

Pretty cool looking.

https://www.carvinguitars.com/catalog/guitars/index.php?model=st300

[toejam]

Sweet. People have been wanting the ST/Strat body shape to come back for awhile now. Carvin listens to what its forum members have to say!

[Jacksons Shred]

Floyd without a locking nut? How does that work :S

[toejam]

With straight string pull at the headstock, it works fine. You can order the optional locking nut if you like.

[nhspike]

Locking tuners are a plus with this approach, but if the nut is cut correctly, I can make a freakin' squier strat dive bomb and still come back in tune

locking nuts/behind-the-nut locking Kahler styles... all pretty much over-hyped

no, wait, Eddie had one for VH I

no, wait, he didn't

LOL



Now that I own 30 guitars with the fuggin' things, I'm tired of locking nuts!

Hang on, my nuts just locked up

[PowerTube]

Floyd without a locking nut? How does that work :S

If I remember correctly, the Ibanez Vinnie Moore model from the 80's was like that. It was that Easter egg speckled one.

[quiksilver]

Wow, now that's a Carvin I would buy.

[Rich#6]

This is very bad, in a good way.

[pro-fusion]

All Carvin had to do to see the demand for this was look at the premium that people pay on eBay for the old ones with the ST body shape.

I had an '89 DC145 with the ST body that I kinda wish I still owned. I'm pretty tempted by this, even though the rest of the guitar has the modern Carvin specs (25" scale etc.).

[jgcable]

it won't stay in tune without a lock nut regardless of the headstock.

[Chowderboots]

it won't stay in tune without a lock nut regardless of the headstock.

As stated before, EVH didn't seem to have too much trouble with his Strat.

There is no such widespread thing as a locking nut for a bass...how can you explain how well a bass with a Kahler bass trem for example can stay in tune?

There are tricks to allow excellent tuning stability without a locking nut. A graphite nut with slots carved properly (not too tight) helps a lot, but only if the strings don't come off the nut at too steep an angle. And those guitars appear to be constructed so that the strings can slide smoothly through the slots. Removing string trees helps, too, of course, other methods have to be taken in order to keep the strings where they should be sometimes. The string's path should be as stright as possible.

So yeah, it can be done, but it takes a bit of careful thought and work.

[Endrik]

Ed had so much trouble keeping the guitar in tune without the locking nut... listen to old bootlegs... the guitars went out of tune often and Ed couldn't play full chords but had to use one or two strings.

Jeff Beck found help in Wilkinson roller nut... his signature guitars come with LSR roller nut but I think Wilkinson stays in tune better.

But regular nut can stay in tune but it's not consistent for heavy whammy bar users

[Newc]

IIRC, EVH also did the "under-wrap" trick where you wind the string so that it goes under the wraps instead of over them. That helps them lock together, as well as cris-crossing them on the post.

However, steel cuts steel, so they tend to break more frequently than using a locking nut.

[leftybob]

As stated before, EVH didn't seem to have too much trouble with his Strat.

There is no such widespread thing as a locking nut for a bass...how can you explain how well a bass with a Kahler bass trem for example can stay in tune?

There are tricks to allow excellent tuning stability without a locking nut. A graphite nut with slots carved properly (not too tight) helps a lot, but only if the strings don't come off the nut at too steep an angle. And those guitars appear to be constructed so that the strings can slide smoothly through the slots. Removing string trees helps, too, of course, other methods have to be taken in order to keep the strings where they should be sometimes. The string's path should be as stright as possible.

So yeah, it can be done, but it takes a bit of careful thought and work.

Does'nt the bass have lower tension ? It also has a wider contact at the nut.

[jgcable]

Ed had so much trouble keeping the guitar in tune without the locking nut... listen to old bootlegs... the guitars went out of tune often and Ed couldn't play full chords but had to use one or two strings.

Jeff Beck found help in Wilkinson roller nut... his signature guitars come with LSR roller nut but I think Wilkinson stays in tune better.

But regular nut can stay in tune but it's not consistent for heavy whammy bar users

Exactly Ed's guitar did not stay in tune if you listen to the bootlegs. Thats why he rarely would play full chords. If you want to use the whammy you need to have a locking nut. Locking tuners, a roller nut, a straight pull headstock, graphite nut, brass nut, bone nut, Kahler, Floyd, it doesn't matter.... none of them work unless you use the bar for very slight tremelo only.