86 Model 4 body wood? Also NGD x 2 story

[DonP]

Ok, I think I've joined the ranks of Model owners. Last night I went to Nashville Used Music and scored a (I think) Model 4 and (flack suit on) Peavey Nitro (banana headstock, not the sharkhead one).

I think it's a Model 4 because it has an H-S-S layout, and a Kahler Pro. It's not the nicest, only a single Full Shred pickup (easy to tell - only SD pickup with two rows of allen heads). The three switch holes were covered with a chrome Harley Davidson skull and cross bone sticker, making it look like it only has Volume and Tone. Single coil holes are empty. Neck and body (black) seemed to be in descent shape. Kahler with chrome trem bar is in good shape and locking nut is fine. No Case.

The Peavey Nitro is a MIA I believe, has the 2700 Killer trem, single hum, but here's the bad part - the trem post and wood holding them is like broke / smashed / pulled forward. Has the Kahler locking nut and hardware and two bars (chrome and black). Headstock is that banana look with 3D layers cut out of it. No Case.

NUM Closed 5 minutes after I got there so I had to act fast - didn't really get a chance to try anything out.

I went to GC afterward and brought the Nitro into the store to hook up and mess with. Well, even with the bridge pulled forward / upward / off it's post, it was still tunable (I tune it to D to relieve tension) and really had a blast playing it in the sound room with a 1969 Marshall 100 watt Super Bass, a Mark II+ Mesa, and a 100 watt Hiwatt. Cranked up it sounded great playing Preist, Maiden, Telsa, Lynch, etc.

So, my questions to you:

Is it a Model 4 from what I described?

What wood is a Model 4? I think basswood?

What would you pay for these two fine instuments?

[Grandturk]

A Model 4 is basswood.

The Kahler on the Model 4 is not the "Pro." The Pro came with steel rollers. The model on the Model 4 should have brass rollers.

The Model 4 should have Vol, Tone and Mid-Boost with a switch for each pickup.

In the condition you describe - $150 or less.

[Rich#6]

sounds like an 86 model 4 I might pay 200 ish, mint 300. the nitros around 150, 200-250 mint.

[DonP]

A Model 4 is basswood.

The Kahler on the Model 4 is not the "Pro." The Pro came with steel rollers. The model on the Model 4 should have brass rollers.

The Model 4 should have Vol, Tone and Mid-Boost with a switch for each pickup.

In the condition you describe - $150 or less.

Are you sure about the Kahlers? I thought there were Pros and there were Flyers. Pros came is different models of "2300" based the metal of the rollers. Flyers were cheaper and you can tell the difference by looks. Mine does have brass rollers.

So it is a Model 4. The holes are in the guitar body but all electronics are gone. Just a Full Shred, a volume, and a tone.

What about the Nitro price? It was a combo deal for both. Out the door too, because Nashville has the fucked up 10% sales tax to make up for no income tax.

[Grandturk]

Are you sure about the Kahlers? I thought there were Pros and there were Flyers. Pros came is different models of "2300" based the metal of the rollers. Flyers were cheaper and you can tell the difference by looks. Mine does have brass rollers.

You had the standard and the Pro - the Pro came along later and the only difference was the stainless steel rollers. Import Charvels did not come with the Pro.

The Flyer is completely different.

[Rich#6]

The PRO stainless steal rollers are black. The old peaveys don't sell for much but are great guitars(resale is worse than carvin guitars).

because Nashville has the fucked up 10% sales tax to make up for no income tax.

We have 10% sales tax and 3% income tax(that may become 4.5%)

[DonP]

I must say I didn't know that about flat mount Kahlers. I always thought there was just the Flyer and Pro.

Seems kind of stupid to call it a different name just because of the roller material. I knew about different rollers, but I thought they were just different model numbers of the Pro, like 2300, 2310, etc.

Learn something new everyday.