Just saw the new Charvel Wildcard in person.

[Chubtone]

This is the internet... it hurts no one's feelings!
You should have just said what you meant in your first post instead of being so crytpic and saying you were speechless. No one knew whether you meant it looked better in person or if it was hideous.

I think I see your point now. I consider Bionic a really good guy and I know he is trying hard to find the right balance for Charvel - to keep the old school Charvel guys interested and bring in some new and younger fans to the brand. Us old school guys can't keep buying guitars forever.

[MakeAJazzNoiseHere]

I hope I made my point clearly in my above post. I knew that others could then find pics and look at them and make the comments for me that I didn't want to on here because Bionic posts here. That's all there was to it. I didn't reference ANY store. I wanted to see if others thought the same thing or if I was maybe missing the point of this new axe and everyone liked them.

Do you guys see my point now? I didn't link to any auctions or make any inferences about buying one from anyone. And why would anyone not say how kick ass something was when they had seen it. Who would that offend?

This is an extremely suspicious group here. I'm just talking to fellow Charvel freaks here as a 27 year Charvel freak myself. That's all I do on the JCF.

Oh, come on, man...

I'm merely pointing out I could totally see where Rich was coming from, it wasn't such a ridiculous line of reasoning as it was made out to be. You made the thread to say nothing, then. Why make a thread that says "Hey, I've seen this. But I'm not going to tell you whether I like it or not." Doesn't that sound pretty damn suspicious? :think:

So, I understand your point and I'm not saying I don't believe you but you have to admit it seems a little WEIRD for a guy to make a thread about something and refuse to give his opinion. Now that you said why, I understand. But, it seemed pretty "fishy" before.

[Chubtone]

MAJN,
I admit I can see where you guys are coming from and it was cryptic, but I have no desire to circumvent the rules on the JCF. I knew as soon as I said it was out in stores that you guys would find the pics "out there" and you guys could all say what you thought of it and get my point across for me without me having to do it.

I used to do that in school all the time too. I was an instigator. I'd say to whoever was around me, "hey, you know what would be funny? If we did this......" and then I would stand by and see my devious idea implemented without having to do it myself. I would still get in trouble sometimes too and insist, "but I didn't DO anything."

That's it, I'm handing out tinfoil hats at the next JCF get together.

[MarkThomas]

Oh, come on, man...

I'm merely pointing out I could totally see where Rich was coming from, it wasn't such a ridiculous line of reasoning as it was made out to be. You made the thread to say nothing, then. Why make a thread that says "Hey, I've seen this. But I'm not going to tell you whether I like it or not." Doesn't that sound pretty damn suspicious? :think:

So, I understand your point and I'm not saying I don't believe you but you have to admit it seems a little WEIRD for a guy to make a thread about something and refuse to give his opinion. Now that you said why, I understand. But, it seemed pretty "fishy" before.

He was withholding his opinion because he sells guitars for a living. If you were a Chevy dealer and thought the new Impala was not as nice as a Ford Taurus, would you tell everyone? Chubtone just wanted to start the discussion ball rolling and couldn't say he was a dealer due to JCF board rules, let alone it wasn't his favorite finish, because he did not want to offend the Charvel employees on this board.

I think he was just trying to state his opinion in a democratic kind-of-way I guess, because the new Wild Card had made its way to eBay for us all to see...or we could have gone to our local Charvel dealer to see them for ourselves.

[Chubtone]

Let me say that there are quite a few dealers for our favorite brand of guitars that are SPONSORS of the JCF Forum and that any of you who frequent this forum and get all your info here should buy from the dealers that sponsor this forum. They have their own section and deserve your business.

I am just a Charvel and Jackson fan on the JCF.

[MakeAJazzNoiseHere]

MAJN,
I admit I can see where you guys are coming from and it was cryptic, but I have no desire to circumvent the rules on the JCF.

There's no question of whether you needed to say anything about having one or not, because you obviously didn't if your goal was just to get opinions on it. There was really no point in your even stating you'd seen on in person since you weren't willing to express your opinion.

There is also no question you didn't need to be cryptic at all, either. If your goal was just to start a discussion then "So, I see the new wildcard is in stores now, what do you guys think of it?" would have been a better way to go.

But hey, no big deal. I see what you were trying to do. It's just the way you did it seemed kind of... Odd.

[Grandturk]

I don't think there's anything wrong with saying, "Hey, just got the new guitar in at the shop. Here's some pictures of it. It's not necessarily to my tastes, but you guys might dig it."

[MarkThomas]

When Chubtone first started this thread, there was one Molten Crust Burst (say that fast three times) on eBay...there are now several. Safe to say the dealers are getting them in this week =]

[Chubtone]

I guess what it boiled down to is that I was having some fun on a forum. I may have wanted to say that this one looks like it was designed by Helen Keller, but refrained from it for the reason I already stated. This is someones work and that person IS passionate about it. I've done things and had others not really dig it and I KNOW that is going to happen but it still makes me wish everyone liked what I did. I recently released an instrumental CD with 9 songs that a lot of people probably think suck. This is not a cryptic or subliminal message to you guys to buy my CD either, as a matter of fact JCF members are not allowed to buy my CD! But designing a guitar like this is personal and my guess is that Bionic did design it so therefore I don't want to bum him out.

Stating that I had seen one in person put me in a different position than 99% of the Charvel fans at that point. Not commenting on it has already been covered quite clearly and honestly in my posts. I guess I don't think of all possible angles of repercussions when I'm having fun on a forum and I can assure you that WILL continue in the future. This is all for fun. I hope none of you went into your bunkers and fired up the generators after reading my cryptic posts. Can we move along now? I am not a Russian spy. Not a member of Al Queda. Not a follower of the JFK two shooters theory. I did however say I had seen the guitar and made you guys wait 2 minutes to see it yourself with a quick search of ebay or Google.

I'M NOT A MONSTER!

[MakeAJazzNoiseHere]

This is all for fun. I hope none of you went into your bunkers and fired up the generators after reading my cryptic posts. Can we move along now? I am not a Russian spy. Not a member of Al Queda. Not a follower of the JFK two shooters theory.

Sheesh, and you say WE need tin foil hats.

[Grandturk]

How badass would that be for a wildcard - Tinfoil finish - killer.

[MakeAJazzNoiseHere]

Oh, that holoflash stuff would actually be kind of neat.

So are these wildcards photo flames? Anyone know?

And if Bionic actually does read this... Bloody Murder. Fade from blood red to dried blood red. I promise to buy one...

[Chubtone]

They are not foto flame. If the tops were just incredible, I would suspect foto flame but they are just good, fairly basic figured tops. They look to be about 3/16" of an inch thick which I believe is the more affordable option for tops available from the Charvel custom shop. My Warmoth has this same thickness quilt maple top on the alder. What I honestly like about the top being only 3/16" is that it doesn't do too much to take away the inherent tone of alder. Though alder is affordable and plain looking and readily available, I love it's tone and don't want some $600 top effecting the way my $99 alder sounds.

And yes obviously I wear a tin foil hat. I was just saying I was going to bring more for the rest of you.

[Grandturk]

Theres actually a guy on eBay with pics that make this one look good - wild west guitars i think. Well - makes the top look good. Back looks like blueberry ass.

[Robert Hendrix]

Geez! All this drama over one of the ugliest guitars Charvel has ever produced. Nobody is supplying me except me, so I ain't afraid to say it. IT'S UGLY AS HELL!! Now let's move on, shall we?