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  • Neck angle on MIJ Pro Mod vs. USA Production Series

    Sorry if this has been covered already (a quick forum search didn't return an answer).

    Do the new MIJ Pro Mod Charvels have the same neck angle as the USA Production Series guitars?

    Thanks.
    Last edited by RacerR; 02-15-2011, 11:09 AM.
    -Rob

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    Anyone... Bueller?
    -Rob

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      Anyone ?
      -Rob

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        • #5
          I think the ones with the direct mount pickups are going to have less of a neck angle. I have seen some usas that the floyds were flush other were pretty high. The mutt I have with a mij body and usa neck the floyd is flush.

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            Originally posted by RacerR View Post
            Anyone... Bueller?
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            • #7
              Right - My USA Producion Series has a non-recessed floating Floyd and a pretty serious neck angle (about the same as my Model 4 with a JT-6). I'm pretty sure the neck pocket on the USA Production Series guitars is angled.

              I was thinking about picking up one of the cases for the new MIJ Pro Mods to put my USA Production Series in - but I want to be sure the USA neck angle will fit well in the case designed for the MIJ guitar. If anyone has any insight/experience with this - let me know.
              Last edited by RacerR; 02-21-2011, 01:01 PM.
              -Rob

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Rich#6 View Post
                I think the ones with the direct mount pickups are going to have less of a neck angle.
                Nah, they just don't route the bridge pickup very deep, it's like 1/4".

                OP, I can't tell you for sure but I'm not thinking it would make much difference. Either way the neck pocket has to be angled, it's just how much, it should be close enough that it will fit.

                I used a Strat case for mine, it fit fine. Speaking of a Strat, you ever see how much you can change the neck angle with a Micro Tilt? It's a lot, and the same case still fits fine. I'm pretty sure you'll be OK.

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                • #9
                  That's a good point regarding the Micro Tilt adj. on a std. strat - I've actually been avoiding using a std. strat case because of the neck angle, I think I'm going to give that a try. Besides - I prefer the wood/tolex G&G case to the ABS case that comes with the Pro Mod anyway.

                  Thanks for the input - I'll post what I find out.
                  -Rob

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                  • #10
                    Oh, I'm glad you posted that. I'm talking about the American Standard rectangular ABS case, or the older chainsaw style ABS cases.

                    The G&G won't work if it's the typical size. I have one that's kind of extra deep that works but the other G&G's I have only work for a recessed Floyd. Don't do it man! It's not deep enough. It will push the tremolo back/tension the strings when you close it.

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                    • #11
                      Yeah - that has always been my concern and the reason I haven't put my guitar in a hard case yet. Wouldn't that be true for pretty much any case holding a guitar with a non-recessed floating Floyd? The microtuners are the highest point on the trem, so pretty much any contact with the top of the bridge will add tension to the strings. I guess it's a matter of finding a case that will add the least tension.

                      Are the G&G cases that come with the newer USA Charvels setup differently than the G&G cases that ship with the newer USA Fender Stratocasters?
                      Last edited by RacerR; 02-22-2011, 10:09 AM.
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                      • #12
                        The G&G standard case works for a recessed Floyd or a Strat, the bridge height is roughly the same. Yes, probably any case is going to contact the bridge, but you don't want it pushing down so hard the strings are a step high. It doesn't really hurt anything immediately to put it in those cases, any more than pulling up on the tremolo does, but I personally wouldn't want to leave it over-strung like that for an extended period of time or anything.

                        I would just get the Pro Mod case and be done with it. Like I said either the American Standard ABS case with the TSA latches or the older "chain saw" style Fender Strat cases with the metal latches work pretty well, too.

                        There is an SKB generic universal Strat case, too, but I have one and honestly think it's a piece of shit because it has a "junk bin" cavity on either side of the neck, and you can have the case latched shut and just jostle it around a little and your tremolo bar will go from one to the other... Right over your neck. Maybe it will get wedged between the neck and body, put some nice dents in there... They didn't make the piece deep enough that's in the lid that is supposed to come down and seal it off to keep that from happening, found that out the hard way.

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                        • #13
                          Yeah - cheap cases piss me off.

                          I've actually written to G&G for info on the differences between a G&G Fender Strat Case and a G&G Charvel case. If I get any good information, I'll post it here. If not - I'll just buy one of the new ABS Pro Mod cases.
                          -Rob

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                          • #14
                            What G&G Charvel case are you talking about?

                            I do know that they make one that works, as I have one for mine. It's about 1/2" thicker than the standard one. Maybe an inch. I've never seen one for sale anywhere like it though.

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                            • #15
                              Right - they don't sell them without the guitars, which is annoying.

                              I did get a response from G&G, and you are correct (from G&G Support):
                              "A standard strat case is 4.5" deep and the Charvel is 5" deep."

                              I went ahead and purchased an ABS Charvel Pro Mod case from an eBay seller - that should work fine for my USA Production Series. I'll post more info once I receive the case.
                              -Rob

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